Best Place to Order Pipe
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Hi guys. I am trying to find out the best place to order my 6" pipe for a coal stove I will be putting in. I need to go out the basement and up about 2 stories. I will need everything. Can someone tell me what I should get?
I am in NY.
Thanks
I am in NY.
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Thanks. So for cost savings, but to have something decent what kind of pipe do I want to use?
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Just looking at what I would need to do and worried. I will have to go through my foundation to get the pipe outside. What is the best, and cheapest way to do that?
Also, can I use double wall pipe to get out of the house and then single wall outside and up? I will be going out the wall of the basment and then up 2 stories plus the height of the roof peek so maybe 25'
Can someone explain what I will need? I would like to add one of the magic heat blowers also.
Thanks!
Also, can I use double wall pipe to get out of the house and then single wall outside and up? I will be going out the wall of the basment and then up 2 stories plus the height of the roof peek so maybe 25'
Can someone explain what I will need? I would like to add one of the magic heat blowers also.
Thanks!
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try northlineexpress.com for pipe. I used duratech, for the simple reason it has a thermal blanket, not just loose insulation that will eventually settle out. you cannot use single wall pipe on the outside. well, you can, i'm sure, but you shouldnt. you want those gases to stay hot the whole time they are traveling through the pipe. you sound like you are in a similar situation as me. I had to go through about 20 inches of stone, it really wasnt the most fun I ever had, but I made it with the help of a gas powered saw, (yes, I started it up in my basement) and an electric demolition hammer. you will run double wall pipe through your foundation, out to your tee, and up from there. if you are working with 6" pipe, double wall 6" pipe is actually 8" outside diameter. don't kid yourself, start with about a 12" square hole. I cut my hole, then put in a piece of 10" iron pipe, then filled in the gap with hydraulic cement. my double wall pipe runs through the 10" pipe. I would check out duravent.com, or some other manufacturers, for thier install manual. off the top of my head, you will need a wall thimble, 1 piece of double wall to go through the wall, then all your double wall up the side of the house, a tee, a tee support braket, some adjustable wall brakets, probably a roof support, and a nice rain cap. I wouldnt bother with one of those magic heat things either. they might be ok for coal, I am not sure, but they are a no-no for burning wood.
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What could I expect to pay in materials for everything you are telling me??
Does the pipe outside need to be stainless steel or aluminum? or will just the black stuff be ok?
Does the pipe outside need to be stainless steel or aluminum? or will just the black stuff be ok?
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Pipe can not be aluminum for either inside or outside. Aluminum is only rated for gas fired apppliances to my knowledge. You'll need steel,galvanized steel or stainless steel for solid fuel applications.
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Ok. On a lot of the websites all I see is the black stuff. Is that what I need? When I see other houses with pipe going up the side, its always shiny metal like stainless steel?
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you want class A chimney pipe, nothing less. duratech, made by duravent is something you would be looking for. you can by it in galvalume exterior and stainless interior, or stainless exterior and stainless interior. I went for the galvalume because I didnt like the "bling" look of stainless. you will have at least $1500 wraped up into a 24' exterior chimney.
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Is that triple wall or dual wall? Class A?
Wow $1500 for 24 feet?ssupercoolss wrote:you want class A chimney pipe, nothing less. duratech, made by duravent is something you would be looking for. you can by it in galvalume exterior and stainless interior, or stainless exterior and stainless interior. I went for the galvalume because I didnt like the "bling" look of stainless. you will have at least $1500 wraped up into a 24' exterior chimney.
I just built 45 foot masonary for $500.
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Ok, heres my situation. At this point I don't have the total amount of money I would need to get this thing going. Between the cost of the stove. $600 then the cost of the Pipe if I just buy it aprox. 1500 or if I have it installed maybe $2200 then the cost of the coal 3 tons $800 and then the cost of the coal bin to build $200 I just don't think I am going to be able to do it this time of the year.
What would you do if you were me? Would you do it anyway and use credit for everything, or would you just buy that stove and hang onto it? or just bail on the whole project until next year?
Please help me decide.
What would you do if you were me? Would you do it anyway and use credit for everything, or would you just buy that stove and hang onto it? or just bail on the whole project until next year?
Please help me decide.
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1st off, I would buy the stove. 2nd I would have the chimney installed unless you are handy. I paid $1400. 20yrs ago for the Metalbestos chimney that I am currently using and it is a lot shorter. 3rd, you don't necessarily need to get all your coal at once. Unless you want it delivered. If you have a way to transport the coal,you can buy it loose or bagged in most any quantity. Loose can be put in your own bags,buckets,barrels,etc and pay by the pound. Pre bagged can be per bag or by the pallet. Just buy the coal when you have the cash and/or when you need it (it won't go bad). Either way you won't need a coal bin to make use of your stove. In the meantime you can enjoy the warmth of your stove and lower heating bills.
Where abouts in NY are you?
Where abouts in NY are you?
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1st off, I would buy the stove. 2nd I would have the chimney installed unless you are handy. I paid $1400. 20yrs ago for the Metalbestos chimney that I am currently using and it is a lot shorter. 3rd, you don't necessarily need to get all your coal at once. Unless you want it delivered. If you have a way to transport the coal,you can buy it loose or bagged in most any quantity. Loose can be put in your own bags,buckets,barrels,etc and pay by the pound. Pre bagged can be per bag or by the pallet. Just buy the coal when you have the cash and/or when you need it (it won't go bad). Either way you won't need a coal bin to make use of your stove. In the meantime you can enjoy the warmth of your stove and lower heating bills.
Thanks. I am still on the fence. I am probably going to do it. The only problem I see is the heat getting to the rest of the house. My wife keeps asking me, is it going to keep the upstairs warm!
How much would floor vents help?
Thanks. I am still on the fence. I am probably going to do it. The only problem I see is the heat getting to the rest of the house. My wife keeps asking me, is it going to keep the upstairs warm!
How much would floor vents help?