The "Coalilution" Party

The "Coalilution" Party

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:43 am

What do you think, we all start a new political party? :P

Seriously, this nation not only needs a viable third party but many viable parties. I think many of the problems we are facing can be directly attributed to the "old boy network" consisting of both Democrats and Republicans having a stanglehold on the politics of this country.

Here's my proposal, anyone we vote for must support the following:

  • Term limits on how long you can hold office, 1 term for senators and 2 terms for Representatives.
  • Line item veto for the President.
  • Campaign finance reform and strictly curtail the amount that can be collected. e.g. a donation of $100 can be made to each canidate from one individual and we'll eliminate all contributions from business and lobbying groups.
  • No more subsidization of any business, let them sink or swim on their own... See ethanol.
  • Total elimination of the current IRS and tax structure and Implementation of flat national income/sales tax. Severe penalties for those found flaunting it.
  • Mandatory video feeds live and permanently archived from all forms of government.
  • Increased and severe penalties any politician accepting bribes or found to be doing anything illegal. e.g you rob a bank while in office the maximum penalty is doubled and mandatory.

That's for starters....
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Re: The "Coalilution" Party

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:58 am

Richard S. wrote:What do you think, we all start a new political party? :P



Believe it or not, I could go along with most of your platform's planks.


Richard S. wrote:Total elimination of the current IRS and tax structure and Implementation of flat national income/sales tax. Severe penalties for those found flaunting it.


Flat sales tax, not flat income tax.


Here are a couple more I would want:

1. No Presidential signing statements. (either veto the bill or sign it, as is)
2. No Presidential Pardons....Period!
3. Implement a parliamentary form of government so that a simple "Vote Of No Confidence" can end a nightmare regime like we have now. (This one is negotiable but I'd like to see it)
4. Make it perjury for a President to lie to the people. (press conferences, State of the Union speeches, anything! (fast track the prosecution & make it grounds for immediate & automatic removal from office, if convicted)
5. You can't be President if you can't pronounce the word NUCLEAR correctly!! ;)

I''m sure we ill add more.
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Re: The "Coalilution" Party

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:11 am

Devil505 wrote:"Vote Of No Confidence" can end a nightmare regime like we have now.


Do you mean like a recall when voting time comes up, that has potential. I'll add how about true "None of the Above" option on baloots forcing the seat to go back to vote.

Devil505 wrote:Make it perjury for a President to lie to the people. (press conferences, State of the Union speeches, anything!


I can see that being a major problem, e.g. they won't want to answer questions.

State of the Union speech:

Hello Fellow Americans, the State of the Union is debatable. Thank you and good night.


:lol:
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Re: The "Coalilution" Party

PostBy: Devil505 On: Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:22 am

Richard S. wrote:Do you mean like a recall when voting time comes up, that has potential.


The same "Parliamentary" system that England, Israel,Australia, Spain.. et al have. .......An entire government can be voted out of office by the legislature at any time. (I can even see where a popular vote could work!.....How long do you think Bush/Cheney would have lasted if we could have voted their entire government out of office b4 the sh-t really hit the fan?!?!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_of_no_confidence


Typically, when parliament votes no confidence, or where it fails to vote confidence, a government must respond in one of two ways:[citation needed]

* resign
* seek a parliamentary dissolution and request a general election

This procedure is either formalised through constitutional convention, as is the case with the United Kingdom, or explicitly stated in the constitutional law, as is the case with Germany and Spain.[citation needed]

Where a government has lost the confidence of the responsible house (i.e., the directly elected lower chamber which can select and dismiss it, as in Spain; in some states both houses of parliament are responsible), a head of state may have the constitutional right to refuse a request for a parliamentary dissolution, so forcing an immediate resignation.[citation needed]
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Re: The "Coalilution" Party

PostBy: billw On: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:04 pm

I'm all for it. I've been thinking of joining the Libertarian party instead of being registered as an independent. I voted for all libertarians in the statewide elections this past cycle. We need to shake up the politicians and get them focused on the fact that they work for us not the other way around.
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Re: The "Coalilution" Party

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:36 pm

Recall appears to be possible in some states so some already have it: http://www.ehow.com/how_2096900_recall-us-senator.html

The 18 states allowing for recall are as follows: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Georgia, Idaho, Kansas, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Montana, Nevada, New Jersey, North Dakota, Oregon, Rhode Island, Washington and Wisconsin.


Wasn't it the governor of California got the boot? In any event sounds like a fine idea to me. Anything to let them know it's not a permanent job.
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Re: The "Coalilution" Party

PostBy: billw On: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:58 pm

PA needs the ability to recall politicians desperately. I can think of a few county commissioners and judges that wouldn't survive if we had that power. And that's exactly why we don't have the option.
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Re: The "Coalilution" Party

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:30 pm

billw wrote:I can think of a few county commissioners and judges


I know of who you speak and personally I think the FBI is going to take care of that issue. There is going to be a few politicians where black striped suits shortly.
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Re: The "Coalilution" Party

PostBy: billw On: Tue Nov 18, 2008 2:56 pm

I sure hope so. Those politicians earned the right to wear the zebra suits and bunk with Bubba but the reason they have been getting away with it and will try in the future is because we have no recourse short of a bullet to get them out of office after they are elected. PA should institute a legal method for the citizens to get rid of corrupt or inept politicians. It would be a breath of fresh air for the citizens of this part of the state.
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Re: The "Coalilution" Party

PostBy: SAU On: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:23 pm

We need far more parties but we won't get them because the crooks running the show have made sure that third parties don't have a chance. Here's part four of a six part John Stossel show.

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