Dallas wrote:LsFarm wrote:[ Old stoves didn't have sealed doors, they were metal to metal. The stove bodies were made out of plates of cast iron loosely fitted together, and poorly sealed
No, they didn't have gaskets, etc, as the things "fit".
Also, I don't agree with your analysis of a heat riser. Fact is, there was a plate restricting the exhaust flow.
http://autorepair.about.com/library/glossary/bldef-301.htm
HEAT RISER VALVE
Definition: A control valve between the exhaust manifold and exhaust pipe on one side of a V8 or V6 engine that restricts the flow of exhaust causing it to flow back through the heat riser channel under the intake manifold. This aids fuel evaporation and speeds engine warm up. A heat riser valve stuck open will slow engine warm-up and may cause hesitation and stalling when the engine is cold. A valve stuck in the closed position will greatly restrict the exhaust system and cause a noticeable lack of power and drop in fuel economy.
Dallas, read what you are writing, steel to steel, or cast iron to cast iron WILL NOT SEAL against a draft.. These surfaces are not machined, and the surfaces are imperfect.. the doors and sides/joints LEAK AIR... There is no argument here,, THEY LEAK.. I've helped many people try to seal up old style stoves and boilers.. the doors need to be remanufactured with gaskets.. and the stove bodies need to be dissassembled and sealed with furnace cement.. like every year or two.. 'cause the cement cracks from the expansion/contraction of the cast iron... The old cast iron stoves are NOT airtight.. You can take a candle or incense stick near the doors, the sides and there is air being drawn in... they leak..
NOW: read the red highlighted portion in your quote from engines course 101, the object is to divert the hot gasses to under the carburetor and heat the intake manifold.. NOT to restrict the exhaust gases,, that is just the way the heat riser does the job.. the intent is to divert hot exhaust NOT to restrict the exhaust.. Trust me,, I've been turning wrenches on cars since I was 8 years old.... and that is damned near 50 years now.... I know what I'm talking about..
Greg L
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