Price check...What's the going price in your area? 2006-07

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PostBy: stelradCoal On: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:47 am

Just picked up 2900 lbs of loose nut in New Britain CT for $205 a ton. Easy to load into the truck - now I just have to convince my wife that I really NEED a dump bed kit for the truck :-)
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PostBy: mjwood0 On: Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:56 am

coaledsweat wrote:I looked into that, my truck can haul 3 tons. I called a dealer's supplier who has the best coal I've seen. 10 bags is the limit just like the dealer. What the ????. I could buy loose up to 6 ton at $150per. that means to save $150, I'd spend $120 on diesel and spend 8 hours on the road to save $30. I'm not doing that. I'll keep checking, PM me if you see a deal.

I don't understand this dealer, most of his coal goes to the pizza joints in New Haven. So he limits his private customer purchases to 10 bags. He never knows when he will get more, and swears he can't pick up the phone and just order more. He wouldn't even order me a 5 ton purchase. Coalman, does this make sense? Is there a shortage or no trucks available, I just can't understand it.


Sounds shady to me. I've never understood places that won't sell bulk. Pellets were like that around here last year. My friend was trying to buy and they said they would only sell 5 bags at a time so "everyone has a chance to get some". In my opinion, if everyone was proactive and got there fast enough, they should get first choice.
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PostBy: Richard S. On: Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:46 pm

coaledsweat wrote: Coalman, does this make sense? Is there a shortage or no trucks available, I just can't understand it.


No shortage of coal that I'm aware of, he may have a contract for ceratain amount and that's all he can get for the season. Could also be a shortage of bagged coal? Don't really know...

He could also want to make sure he has enough supply to keep everyone happy and not be able to get a delivery really quick and doesn't have the cash, space...etc to get a few trucks at a time.

Guess there could be a variety of reasons.
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PostBy: mjwood0 On: Wed Dec 13, 2006 1:31 pm

Coalman - You make some good points that I hadn't considered.

From an economic point of view (supply / demand), if you limit the amount of something people can buy, no one ever has fulfilled their demand. More people with demand, the higher the prices that can be charged. In a way, it keeps demand from decreasing and therefore, artificially raises prices.

I won't buy from people like that. It may not be illegal or even unethical, but it's somewhat deceitful and my money can go elsewhere.
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PostBy: coaledsweat On: Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:56 pm

Where he gets his coal in NEPA, I was told the same thing, 10 bags per customer. That is basically at the mine. The excuse was they do not want to compete with their dealers.
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PostBy: EasyRay On: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:49 pm

I'm getting two tons of bagged nut on friday. $529 delivered to plainville CT. There seems to be a problem getting bag coal. As soon as it comes in, it is gone, and he can only get about one load a month. The price has gone up ten dollars a ton since last month. I ordered this about about a month and a half ago.

I sent an email to the coal company and they told me because of high demand they were having a hard time keeping him supplied with product. Is this a problem with just this one coal company?

Regards, Ray
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PostBy: Cap On: Tue Dec 19, 2006 7:32 pm

Hello List--

I've called around in the Carbon County, PA area this week to price a ton of stove coal. Only half of the guys carry it. The best price was $145, another guy was $166 I believe. But a 3rd guy quoted me $192 claiming his coal is better quality then the normal coal. This I find hard to believe being Carbon County is the heart of Anthracite country and it would be hard not to get the best quality.

Richard, can this guy be trying to mislead me? All of the coal I have ever used in the past 4 years seems to be of the same very consistent quality. Is there a question or two I can ask him to see if he is being honest with me?

Thanks
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PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:04 pm

Cap wrote:Richard, can this guy be trying to mislead me?


He can certainly be telling the truth, short of testing it there is really no way to tell. If you have an eye for it you can usually pick it out. Basically the best varieties will be seamless and have no flat pieces, generally having a rounder shape. you can even hear the different sound it makes going down the chute. :)
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PostBy: TGMC On: Tue Dec 19, 2006 10:33 pm

HELLO ALL, JUST PICKED UP 3 TONS FOR $325 OVER THE SCALE. THE SIGN ON THE BREAKER DOOR SAID $115 PER TON PICKED UP ON THE SCALE. LUCKILY I OWN MY OWN DUMP TRUCK TO PICK THIS UP. BY THE WAY I BURN RICE BUT THE WEIGMASTER TOLD ME THAT PRICE IS FOR ALL SIZE COAL. PITTSTON VAL
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PostBy: JerseyCoal On: Tue Dec 19, 2006 11:29 pm

In central NJ, pea coal $235.00 per ton plus $15.00 delivery charge, from a NJ dealer 25 miles away.
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PostBy: Cap On: Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:24 pm

I shopped around this week. Drove 30 miles one way with my 4 x 8 utility trailer and bought one ton nut coal directly from the source for $121. Yes, I was in line with huge dump trucks. Just a bit intimidated! The breaker was very modern compared to what I have seen in the images on the web.

The front loader who loaded me could have crushed my Jeep Cherokee like it was a plastic model car! I've been burning the nut for 24 hrs now and it seems to burn much better than the stove/nut mix i bought in Sept from a private dealer's coal yard in a different area.

But if you don't want your vehicle caked with dirty black mud, I'd suggest you stick with the yard or delivery by the trucks to your house.
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PostBy: LsFarm On: Fri Dec 22, 2006 11:54 pm

Mark, just make sure you wash your shoes or boots off!! That black mud makes a mess of carpeting. [don't ask how I know]

Greg L
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PostBy: Cap On: Sat Dec 23, 2006 12:27 am

Greg--

I've worked in steel mills on lox stations for 20 years. Coal mines or steel mills. Very crummy, hot & dusty in summer, wet, muddy & cold in winter. Always dirty and somewhat dangerous if you aren't careful.
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PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:01 am

I picked up 3,000# of loose nut yesterday for $300, actual weight was 3152#. I think he gave me a little bonus because it took him a while to get his old loader started. I just took the time to talk about coal burning with the other old timer that was waiting, we were a little disappointed when the loader started!
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PostBy: bric2000 On: Sat Dec 30, 2006 1:03 am

$100/ton pickup.
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