Mr. Obama Change ? same old same old....

Re: Mr. Obama Change ? same old same old....

PostBy: leblancsp On: Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:24 am

stockingfull wrote:Hot Rod Blagojevich's own words on the tapes exonerate Obama. All the Gov was being offered for picking Obama's choice was "appreciation." And it quite obviously wasn't enough.

Moreover, that person, Valerie Jarrett, was appointed a "Senior White House advisor" on November 15, weeks before Fitzgerald stopped Blagojevich's "G-bay" auction last week. So the discussions about appointing her obviously went nowhere and were abandoned by Obama's team long ago.

Nice try, but end of story.


You're too smart to really believe it's the end of the story!

Tony Rezco
Bill Ayers
Reverand Wright
Father Flagar
Acorn
Blago
....................

When did we stop judging people by the company they keep? I know....I know....none of the guys mentioned above did any of the things they are famous for while President deflect was in the room or he wasn't old enough or he was not aware of........stay tuned!
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Re: Mr. Obama Change ? same old same old....

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:29 am

They held up Rezco's sentencing to put the squeeze on Blogo. If either of these guys start singing, who wants to lay odds on another "Vince Foster incident" in the near future? ;)
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Re: Mr. Obama Change ? same old same old....

PostBy: stockingfull On: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:20 am

Here's the diagnosis for you guys: Terminal wishful thinking. :lol:
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Re: Mr. Obama Change ? same old same old....

PostBy: leblancsp On: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:46 am

stockingfull wrote:Here's the diagnosis for you guys: Terminal wishful thinking. :lol:


Sort of.......my wishful thinking is that there is still some justice in the world and the Bed Wetting Liberals and media will finally realize how foolish they were by letting President deflect get a free pass during the election.

It should be interesting to see how the same people that claimed Sarah Palin was unqualified to be President even though she wasn't running for the job....will spin how qualified Caroline Kennedy or whatever her real name is.....to be the next Senator of NY. Good grief!
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Re: Mr. Obama Change ? same old same old....

PostBy: stockingfull On: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:27 am

Although she's married to Edwin Schlossberg, her name has always been Caroline Kennedy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Kennedy As the Wiki article shows, she surely is a legacy but not an empty one: she's a lawyer, author and public activist -- and she didn't start doing those things yesterday.

Nonetheless, even though nearly everybody is more qualified than Sarah Palin, you're not the only one concerned that Caroline doesn't have the political credentials to assume a U.S. Senate seat. OTOH, politics is full of such stories: for example, was her cousin-in-law, Ahhhnold the Governator, "qualified" to become Governor of California? How do you think he's done?

The bottom line is that the only risk to Democrats of appointing her is that she could lose the election to keep her seat in 2010. But the flipside is that she'd have two years to prove herself worthy of keeping it and she's smart enough to know to take full advantage of that interval.

Oh, and she probably won't have trouble raising the money for her campaign. :smoke:
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Re: Mr. Obama Change ? same old same old....

PostBy: kootch88 On: Fri Dec 19, 2008 8:39 am

I would prefer Cuomo because he has more experience in the political world, is very intelligent and presents very well. Kennedy does not speak well in public. She seems so damned shy. Can't say I blame her, but this is a public office and I want to hear what they have to say without turning the volume up 10 notches on the radio to hear.
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Re: Mr. Obama Change ? same old same old....

PostBy: ken On: Fri Dec 19, 2008 9:43 am

I don't think anyone one in the house or senate is quailified. 2 terms out the door. Retirement 1/4 of your pay. Why is there no movement in this country to push for term limits. It's only way to fix this country and get it back on the right track.
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Re: Mr. Obama Change ? same old same old....

PostBy: SAU On: Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:23 am

ken wrote:I don't think anyone one in the house or senate is quailified. 2 terms out the door. Retirement 1/4 of your pay. Why is there no movement in this country to push for term limits. It's only way to fix this country and get it back on the right track.


One easy fix would be to limit political donations only from the district that a senator or representative is from. That would pretty much eliminate most of the special interest BS going on. Unfortunately that would leave our poor congress critters hungry and on the street, so there is now way they would make such a simple contribution to the well being of the nation.
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Re: Mr. Obama Change ? same old same old....

PostBy: stockingfull On: Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:30 pm

Unfortunately, the side-effect of that strategy would be that only the rich would hold political office, because "self-funding" has been held to be a constitutional right.

Most folks think that might not be a good thing.

And I happen to agree that Andrew Cuomo would be a better pick for NY Senator than Caroline, at least on "Day One." Plus, he'll probably run against Gov Paterson if he doesn't get it, while she likely won't. So that's gotta be one thing on the Gov's mind....
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Re: Mr. Obama Change ? same old same old....

PostBy: SAU On: Fri Dec 19, 2008 12:49 pm

I'd prefer to have self financed over corporate whores.
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Re: Mr. Obama Change ? same old same old....

PostBy: stockingfull On: Fri Dec 19, 2008 1:00 pm

There's merit to that, but the risk is that the Senate becomes sort of a "House of Lords." And don't forget, many of the people who can self-finance are the "whores" of but one corporation: their own.
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Re: Mr. Obama Change ? same old same old....

PostBy: leblancsp On: Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:23 pm

stockingfull wrote:The "Osama on a Silver Platter" crap is just so old and tired. And discredited. Don't forget, Geo Tenet (of "slam dunk" infamy -- oh, and Bush's Medal of Freedom recipient) and the CIA boyz refused to certify him at the time.

And lessee, how many tapes has OBL made since triumphantly admitting responsibility for 9/11? And the same CIA -- plus all of our other armed forces -- haven't been able to lay a glove on him? (Gee, I wonder if John McCain is gonna tell Obama all he knows about "how to get Bin Laden"? :lol: )

Apart from more than doubling our 9/11 losses in Iraq, our positively majestic ineptitude since 9/11 has done more to diminish our stature in the world than the attacks themselves.

Pathetic.


Stocking...are you one of those guys that lets facts get in the way of your opinion.....

http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/P ... _laden.htm
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Re: Mr. Obama Change ? same old same old....

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Dec 20, 2008 2:02 am

leblancsp wrote:
stockingfull wrote:The "Osama on a Silver Platter" crap is just so old and tired. And discredited. Don't forget, Geo Tenet (of "slam dunk" infamy -- oh, and Bush's Medal of Freedom recipient) and the CIA boyz refused to certify him at the time.

And lessee, how many tapes has OBL made since triumphantly admitting responsibility for 9/11? And the same CIA -- plus all of our other armed forces -- haven't been able to lay a glove on him? (Gee, I wonder if John McCain is gonna tell Obama all he knows about "how to get Bin Laden"? :lol: )

Apart from more than doubling our 9/11 losses in Iraq, our positively majestic ineptitude since 9/11 has done more to diminish our stature in the world than the attacks themselves.

Pathetic.


Stocking...are you one of those guys that lets facts get in the way of your opinion.....

http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/P ... _laden.htm


So Clinton let him go. What's your point? That it was impossible for GWB to do anything with a memo "Bin Laden determined to attack inside US"?

Don't pass the buck.

Why doesn't Bush call one of those Saudi princes he likes holding hands with in the Rose Garden and put a hit out on the native son?
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Re: Mr. Obama Change ? same old same old....

PostBy: coalkirk On: Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:36 am

jpete wrote:Why doesn't Bush call one of those Saudi princes he likes holding hands with in the Rose Garden and put a hit out on the native son?


You don't think there isn't already a hit out on him? Trust me, there is.
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Re: Mr. Obama Change ? same old same old....

PostBy: jpete On: Sat Dec 20, 2008 6:27 pm

coalkirk wrote:
jpete wrote:Why doesn't Bush call one of those Saudi princes he likes holding hands with in the Rose Garden and put a hit out on the native son?


You don't think there isn't already a hit out on him? Trust me, there is.


If GWB killed the boogeyman, how could he scare the sheep? There may be a hit on him, but I don't think they're looking real hard. I know we are broke but I think we could probably come up with enough money to pay one of those warlords to turn him over.
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