New to coal but does the ash color change???

New to coal but does the ash color change???

PostBy: TzHauling On: Mon Dec 01, 2008 9:52 pm

I bought a home last year with a coal boiler a efm don't know what model it is. but the coal ash was a grey color. this year had more coal delivered and the ash is brown. Does this matter??? if it does how do I correct it???


Thanks for any help you can give me...
TzHauling
 
Stove/Furnace Make: efm

Re: New to coal but does the ash color change???

PostBy: lincolnmania On: Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:34 pm

does all the ash appear to be burnt? switching coal sometimes requires a change in air rate
different coal from different veins of coal will have different ash and burn differently.......my ash is a reddish brown......looks like granola when it's burnt
lincolnmania
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: efm af-150 1982
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: alaska kodiak stoker 1986
Hand Fed Coal Stove: warm morning 1980 kenmore

Re: New to coal but does the ash color change???

PostBy: TzHauling On: Mon Dec 01, 2008 10:49 pm

Yes all the coal seams to be burnt. A few pieces of coal are in the ashes but not many. I haven't touched the setting. I just didn't know if the color meant something was wrong. But I guess it's ok if it's different. The guy I had deliver it said it was from south tamaqua coal pocket. I don't know where they got it from before that. When we bought the home the coal room was full to the top so we didn't have to buy it last year and that ash was grey.


Thank you for your help
TzHauling
 
Stove/Furnace Make: efm

Re: New to coal but does the ash color change???

PostBy: stoker-man On: Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:09 am

We'll have to wait for coal berner to answer. Coal from different locations will produce differing colors of ash.
stoker-man
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: 1981 efm wcb-24 in use 365 days a year
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Chestnut
Other Heating: Hearthstone wood stove

Re: New to coal but does the ash color change???

PostBy: Barnzy On: Mon Dec 08, 2008 7:20 pm

Hi: Just read you post about ash color.
Iget my coal from a breaker about a mile away from South Tamaqua Pockets, and last year the
ashes were grayish and this year they are a reddish brown color.
So it may have something to do with the veins they are hitting.
Barnzy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM AP-520-1
Coal Size/Type: Rice -- Anthracite
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: AP-520-1

Re: New to coal but does the ash color change???

PostBy: Pa Dealer On: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:28 am

seems to me that the red/brown ash coal makes more klinkers than white/gray ash coal.
Pa Dealer
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 DF
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM DF 520
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker

Re: New to coal but does the ash color change???

PostBy: Barnzy On: Tue Dec 09, 2008 7:45 pm

Yep, your right about the klinkers.
A guy I know uses the same coal I use but in a 700 and he says he gets
clumps and klinkers the size a a softball sometimes.
Over the years i noticed the coal from Luzerne County has grey ash and the further
south to Schuylikll County it varies from grey to reddish/brown.

RB
Barnzy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM AP-520-1
Coal Size/Type: Rice -- Anthracite
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: AP-520-1

Re: New to coal but does the ash color change???

PostBy: Pa Dealer On: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:00 pm

Last weekend one of my customers called that they were getting a lot of unburnt coal in their ashes (EFM 350). I went over to look at it and there was a clinker the size of Luzerne County jammed up in the back. I reached in with a poker and broke it up. I pulled out her ash bucket to find that it was a big red ash clinker. She had just switched coal suppliers and he said the coal came from a more southern breaker than her usual Hazleton area breaker. For some reason, red ash coal seems to clinker.


RY
Pa Dealer
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 DF
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM DF 520
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker

Re: New to coal but does the ash color change???

PostBy: Barnzy On: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:45 pm

Hey PA Dealer, I don't mind the small clinkers as long as it burns good.
Its from Premium Fine Coal in Clamtown.
Its still better than the coal I got the beginning of last year from
the other breaker over in Stockton. The ash tubs were as heavy as
a tub of 2b stone. I had to blend good with the bad just to get it to burn.
By the way, I heard you did a beautiful job on Willie's change-over to coal. :)


RB
Barnzy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM AP-520-1
Coal Size/Type: Rice -- Anthracite
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: AP-520-1

Re: New to coal but does the ash color change???

PostBy: Pa Dealer On: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:50 am

Hey Barnzy, yeah I don't mind red ash coal if it burns good. Willy's change over went well, multiple zones, and boiler relocation. He could not wait to get rid of that leaking cast iron oil burner. That 1964 or 65 EFM was purring away. He built a beautiful coal bin in that room, maybe you could get him to post a few pictures. I am putting in a 1965 520 on Thursday. One less oil burner out there.

RY
Pa Dealer
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 DF
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM DF 520
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker

Re: New to coal but does the ash color change???

PostBy: Barnzy On: Wed Dec 10, 2008 7:34 pm

RY, I only get to work with will when there is projects at the Markle,
and last week I was with him and forgot to ask how his coal was burning.
He initially got 5 or 6 tons from the same place I get it from
He did say on those frigid days he burnt a good amount.
Will try to get him to post the pictures.


RB
Barnzy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM AP-520-1
Coal Size/Type: Rice -- Anthracite
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: AP-520-1

Re: New to coal but does the ash color change???

PostBy: Pa Dealer On: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:09 pm

RB one thing I noticed about Will's coal is that it was very clean,there was no ore dust.I have to stop by and see how the boilers doing.Just got a line on $100.00 a ton rice :) have to check it out.






RY
Pa Dealer
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 DF
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM DF 520
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker

Re: New to coal but does the ash color change???

PostBy: Barnzy On: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:14 pm

RY I have Zero dust with the coal from these guys. It shines from the time its
dumped till the time the bin is low.


Check Your PM in a little while.
Barnzy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM AP-520-1
Coal Size/Type: Rice -- Anthracite
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: AP-520-1

Re: New to coal but does the ash color change???

PostBy: stoker-man On: Thu Dec 11, 2008 12:20 pm

If that 100 a ton rice is from a school in NYC, I know the guy who bought it all.
stoker-man
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: 1981 efm wcb-24 in use 365 days a year
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Chestnut
Other Heating: Hearthstone wood stove

Re: New to coal but does the ash color change???

PostBy: Pa Dealer On: Thu Dec 11, 2008 6:02 pm

stoker-man wrote:If that 100 a ton rice is from a school in NYC, I know the guy who bought it all.



No, its from a bank reclaim breaker in my neck of the woods.I have to pick it up, but no problem with that, i use a one ton Chevy dump with a chute door in the center of the gate. Its a little extra work but being that im cheap by nature i dont mind.


R.Y
Pa Dealer
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 DF
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM DF 520
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker