Uncontrolable Draft

 
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Post by acfree565 » Sat. Dec. 06, 2008 3:46 pm

I have a draft constanly coming from my kitchen and into my living room where my stove is located. As the weather get's colder the draft increases, I've check every window,corner and doorway for air leaking in and found nothing. I do have a Lg cistern not being used under my kitchen floor that it's walls are poured concrete. I also finding myself running the stove hotter to keep the house warm on our coldest days in Lancaster Pa.
The stove I use is a Stratford SC75. "Opinions welcomed". :idea:
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Post by coalkirk » Sat. Dec. 06, 2008 3:50 pm

Do you have an exhaust fan in the kitchen that vents outside?

 
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Post by Devil505 » Sat. Dec. 06, 2008 4:03 pm

Could be that the stove itself is creating the draft by pulling needed combustion air from a leak in your kitchen. Is there a window you could crack near the stove or any way of supplying your stove with a dedicated air line? (if your house is that tight, your stove will not burn unless it can get air)

Can't find your stove online. Have a link? What kind of stove is it? (ie hand fired, stoker?)

 
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Post by wsherrick » Sat. Dec. 06, 2008 4:45 pm

Also check under your sink where the pipes come through. Often times this is an area where outside air can sneak in.

 
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Post by Ashcat » Sat. Dec. 06, 2008 5:21 pm

I had a similar issue with my insert, and believe some of hte problem was air going AROUND the stove and up the chimney. This part of the problem was solved with added insulation around the margins between the stove and the hearth. I also found that supplying outside air directly to the stove made a major difference. You can see my test of this concept in the picture below which, not surprisingly, didn't meet the requirements of the aesthetics regulators (wife and kids). I'm considering whether or not to create a better-looking device, but this would likely involve cutting a hole in my floor and basement block wall.

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Post by rockwood » Sat. Dec. 06, 2008 6:17 pm

More details on the layout of your house would help.

Is there a doorway or partition of any kind between the kitchen and living room?
Is there a second level above these rooms, if so where is the stairway?
Does the kitchen stay warm when you run the stove?

As warm air circulates/spreads to other rooms the cool air near the floor will return to the heat source and this could be what you are experiencing. A ceiling fan near the entrance to the kitchen might stop the circulation of the cool air but might make the kitchen cooler because the fan will affect the circulation of the warm air to the kitchen. You might just need to experiment.

 
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Post by tvb » Sat. Dec. 06, 2008 6:49 pm

You can use a stick of incense to find drafts. Just make sure to use a scent you like.


 
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Post by coalkirk » Sat. Dec. 06, 2008 7:09 pm

A few sheets of toilet paper works well too.

 
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Post by BIG BEAM » Sat. Dec. 06, 2008 8:23 pm

It's just the natral convection.Stove in LR and no heat in kit.Hot air goes into the kitchen high in the doorway and cold air comes out of the kitchen on the floor and back to the stove.
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Post by BIG BEAM » Sat. Dec. 06, 2008 8:31 pm

You could rip out the kitchen stove and put in a 2nd coal stove toothy :doh:
I'm sure the other half would love you for that.
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Post by Devil505 » Sat. Dec. 06, 2008 9:05 pm

Ashcat wrote:You can see my test of this concept in the picture below which, not surprisingly, didn't meet the requirements of the aesthetics regulators (wife and kids).
Your wife objected to that fix??? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Must be a "Guy" thing but I've been laughing for 10 minutes!! (looks like something I would do!!) :lol: :devil:

 
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Post by Ashcat » Sat. Dec. 06, 2008 10:28 pm

Devil505 wrote:
Ashcat wrote:You can see my test of this concept in the picture below which, not surprisingly, didn't meet the requirements of the aesthetics regulators (wife and kids).
Your wife objected to that fix??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes--can you believe it? I'd had myself convinced she'd dig the postmodern/industrial look, which I figured was kind of understated. :)

 
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Post by Devil505 » Sat. Dec. 06, 2008 10:41 pm

Ashcat wrote:
Devil505 wrote: Your wife objected to that fix??? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Yes--can you believe it? I'd had myself convinced she'd dig the postmodern/industrial look, which I figured was kind of understated. :)
A man after my own heart!! :cheers:

(we're not interested in how it looks.......Just how it works!!)

Like the old expression says:

Women......You cant live with them.........(& you can't kill em!)

 
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Post by stovepipemike » Sun. Dec. 07, 2008 7:55 am

I found that by the use of a laser beam type temperature indicator [harbor freight $40.] it is easy to find the air leaks. Point that baby around and the cold leaking area will show dramatically. It is also good to find a malfunctioning fuel injector on your diesel truck by reading the manifold temperature opposite each cylinder.Works on trailer wheel bearings at stops when you have to haul all that coal .Nobody wants a hot wheel bearing , a cool manifold,or a cold wall. Versatile cheap tool that. Regards, Mike

 
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Post by CoaLen » Sun. Dec. 07, 2008 12:49 pm

I don't get it Ashcat.... what's wrong with what ya got there? Looks like what I would call a temporary permanent installation. :roll:

Wimmen.... they ain't like normal people! :lol:
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