Southern Flying Squirrels

Southern Flying Squirrels

PostBy: tsb On: Tue Dec 09, 2008 8:48 pm

Looking for some help with a long standing problem. I have a large old house with a very large attic. I also have a large population of Southern Flying Squirrels living through out the building. The dog and can catch and kill them if they venture into the living area, but they move mostly thought the
walls and ceilings. I've nailed a few with a BB gun, but this method won't keep up with population growth. They seem to avoid "have a heart" traps and
the usual rodent traps. Poison would just make a smelly mess and I don't think they would eat it. Trying to seal the house so they can't get in or out is
also out of the question. You can see from the photo they can move through very small spaces.
Any ideas would be appreciated. I think they just like the coal stove comfort.

TSB
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Re: Southern Flying Squirrels

PostBy: cheapheat On: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:14 pm

Ah brother coal burner and flying rat hater TSB, my house used to be a romper room for those little bastards. I have trapped no less than 20...Im exaggerating I think the death toll is around 18. I should have saved the pelts and made my daughter a fur coat or a nice steering wheel cover. There are some pictures on another thread of some dead ones I got. My father is a professional trapper and when I told him something was in the attic it was father son bonding time. He brought over a whole bucket full of rat traps(the bigger ones) and we set them all over the attic. I got 2 almost every night for a week then it slowed down alot. Next season was alot slower with only a half dozen maybe. But now the problem has been eliminated( huge smile), we used peanuts for bait on most of the traps. The trick is to use small wire and tie the whole peanut right to the trigger mechanism. The traps with peanuts out produced all others except one, we used a small piece of paperboard attached to the trigger merchanism(the paperboard should be the same size as the wire trap part) and put a couple drops of some black walnut lure he had on it. It wasnt even food but it smelled so good to them that once they investigate and step on the cardboard its all over. I think once those things take up residence and have babies they all just keep coming back. Good luck, Let me know how it works out. Oh yeah the traps with peanuts that were most effective were set in smaller places where they must feel more safe like between 2 boxes. Jim
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Re: Southern Flying Squirrels

PostBy: Hunlock On: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:25 pm

I have them in my outbuildings....

I'd be careful about "getting rid" of them, as the look a like cousins (northerns) are VERY rare, and are endangered.


http://www.pgc.state.pa.us/pgc/cwp/view.asp?A=11&Q=162774
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.


Are you sure you have southerns?
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Re: Southern Flying Squirrels

PostBy: cheapheat On: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:30 pm

Im pretty sure they are all dead. Sorry but I dont know. Jim
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Re: Southern Flying Squirrels

PostBy: tsb On: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:32 pm

Jim

Thanks for the reply. I don't feel so alone anymore. I'll give the traps and peanuts a try if I don't get any other replies that are more dangerous and daring. One method I did try was to hang a string with peanut butter next to a hole in the ceiling floor boards. When the reached down to get the peanut butter I would crack them with the BB gun. Only got a few that way. I think they have a steep leaning curve.

Thanks again TSB
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Re: Southern Flying Squirrels

PostBy: tsb On: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:33 pm

Hunlock,

They are Southern squirrels, but no matter, they are endangered in my house.

TSB
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Re: Southern Flying Squirrels

PostBy: tvb On: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:45 pm

It sounds kind of lame, but you may want to try some blood meal in areas where they gather. It's a tried and true method for keeping furry pests out of the garden and may work for your furry problem.

A bag of dried blood is cheap and you won't smell it at all. Critters sense it as bad karma and tend to stay away.
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Re: Southern Flying Squirrels

PostBy: tsb On: Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:53 pm

tvb,

Anything is worth a try, could be a cheap and easy alternative.

Thanks,

TSB
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Re: Southern Flying Squirrels

PostBy: tvb On: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:05 pm

I use it for rabbits, deer, and my nefarious kitties and it seems to work. If your local garden shop doesn't sell it, google Espoma to buy on line.
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Re: Southern Flying Squirrels

PostBy: Hunlock On: Tue Dec 09, 2008 10:09 pm

tsb wrote:Hunlock,

They are Southern squirrels, but no matter, they are endangered in my house.

TSB


lol.....Just to clarify, I wasn't getting all PETA on you....haha... I just didn't want to see ya get in trouble over those little devils!

They are super invasive, I know.

Good luck with your problem, and again, didn't mean to offend you.....


Tim
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Re: Southern Flying Squirrels

PostBy: tsb On: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:02 pm

Hunlock

None taken. The northern squirrels are larger and mostly gray. Southerns are slightly larger than a deer mouse and redish brown with white bellies.
By the way. Nice bike. I'm a scooter (girlie) man myself. Majesty 400. At 60 years, I can't bend over and crank gears anymore. My rocket was history a few years ago.

TSB
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Re: Southern Flying Squirrels

PostBy: gambler On: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:55 pm

Its funny this thread came up. I was outside with the dog last night and I heard and saw something come from my roof and land in the trees. It sailed right by my head. I told the wife we must have the flying squirrels back again.

Funny story: When my son was an infant he was very fussy and cried all of the time so my wife used to sit in the living room with him when he was fussing at night. She used to tell me she could hear something in the fireplace. I told her it was just her imagination because I never heard anything. One night both of us were watching tv and she said I hear that noise, sounds like mice down the chimney. You could hear there nails scratching on the metal fireplace damper. At the time we had vented gas logs in the fireplace so I opened the damper and lit up the logs thinking whatever was in there would get the heck out of there. The fire had burned for about 20 minutes when all of a sudden a large bang against the metal damper and something flew into the fire and jumped out into the living room and ran across the room, jumped over my infant son who was on the floor and ran behind the entertainment center. My wife said what is it, I said I don't know, looked like a squirrel but why would it be out at night. We looked for him and found him sitting behind the vcr. I told my wife to watch him so he doesn't escape. I went to the basement and returned with a pump up BB gun. I did not want the BB bouncing around so I only gave it 2 pumps. I shot the furry critter off of the vcr and he fell behind the entertainment center. I went to look for him and he came running out and climbed up on my full black bear mount. I gave the gun 4 pumps and shot him off of the bears back. After he was dead I looked at him and realized it was a flying squirrel. The nice larger grey ones. That was my first confirmed kill inside my house. I will have to admit that when I was sitting in the recliner by the fireplace and that thing made the bang and jumped out onto the floor I squeeled like a little girl.
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Re: Southern Flying Squirrels

PostBy: Hunlock On: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:59 pm

tsb wrote:Hunlock

None taken. The northern squirrels are larger and mostly gray. Southerns are slightly larger than a deer mouse and redish brown with white bellies.
By the way. Nice bike. I'm a scooter (girlie) man myself. Majesty 400. At 60 years, I can't bend over and crank gears anymore. My rocket was history a few years ago.

TSB


Thanks!...I love my Victory. It really is a pleasure to ride, but if you really get on it, she's rip your arms off!...haha

Majesty? Yamie, right? Good lookin' scoots.
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Re: Southern Flying Squirrels

PostBy: ken On: Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:34 am

I had them in my attic for years and didn't even know it. They only come out at night. I don't hear well at all. My GF would here them up there all the time and I just told here she was hearing things.lol One night we were playing poker online and I heard something. Turned around and it was sitting on top of the shop vac watching us. I chased it upstairs and shot it with a BB gun. Found the attic cover was open , thats how he got in the house. I put a bunch of decon up there and took care of all of them. Funny thing about them is they don't kick the young ones out when they grow up. Their just one great big happy family. Now if I could find a way to get rid of the 1,000's of bats in my barn. :mad:
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Re: Southern Flying Squirrels

PostBy: bksaun On: Wed Dec 10, 2008 11:33 am

Bromide= no more bats, just a little hard to use, and a little dangerous!

Bk
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