Marxism vs The Constitution

Re: Marxism vs The Constitution

PostBy: Complete Heat On: Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:58 pm

The Constitution is dead, and has been for a long time.

Mike
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Re: Marxism vs The Constitution

PostBy: SAU On: Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:16 am

Complete Heat wrote:The Constitution is dead, and has been for a long time.

Mike


A very long time indeed.
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Re: Marxism vs The Constitution

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:38 pm

Complete Heat wrote:The Constitution is dead, and has been for a long time.

Mike


Keep your powder dry........ ;)
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Re: Marxism vs The Constitution

PostBy: Complete Heat On: Tue Dec 23, 2008 10:58 pm

My powder is dry, and my skills (former Green Beret) are kept sharp. I have a feeling that they may get put to good use sooner rather than later. The country is in a death spiral, and all the politicians could care about is stripping it of everything they can before the big crash. I used to think politicians were stupid, but now I realize that they know exactly what they are doing, to include the consequences of their actions, and that they do not care about our country or the constitution. At some point it will be up to the people that make the world go round to pick up the pieces and rebuild this once great nation on its original foundation (the U.S. Constitution), and hold accountable ALL of those people that sold it out.

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Re: Marxism vs The Constitution

PostBy: SAU On: Tue Dec 23, 2008 11:35 pm

CH,

I too served, did Desert Storm and Shield, ooo rah,,, BS. Today as I look back over my service history, I am sorry to say I feel used and abused. Mostly I have drifted over the years, from all but one of my old military buddies. The one guy I keep up with has seen this coming but not quite in the same fervor that I have. I Have a neighbor who was a Beret. The Beret, at forty some years of age is still all about aluminum wheels and the latest useless gadgets. He doesn't see any of this coming. Let's say for the sake of prognostication that it all does come tumbling down. How many of the guys that you served with really understand the Constitution and would fight for the freedoms contained in that "GD piece of paper"? One of the reasons I ask is because I too was a consumerist know nothing until 9/11 landed me on the airline watch list. Being on the watch list made me wake up and smell the coffee, It made me pay attention to what the heck is going on, and it made me start reading the history and recognizing what the Constitution was meant to stand for. It made me realize that in modern America, it is people like me who land on arbitrary lists and could become the new Jew of old. I may be One of the ones to be watched, a "useless eater", and perhaps at some point in time herded onto a train headed to no place. The only time I have been in trouble was for speeding tickets and I was never politically active until after 9/11, but I made the list.
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Re: Marxism vs The Constitution

PostBy: jpete On: Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:32 am

Well, I'm glad to know there are at least a few of you on the good side. :D I wanted to serve but between my fathers unflattering stories of his Air Force service and my solemn wish to never be shot at, I made the decision not to join. I was "political" for a while, but until I got turned on to Ron Paul, and then started reading a few other things, I never realized how far away from the Constitution we really are. I was just a typical "Joe the Dope" trying to scratch out his piece of the "American Dream".

I don't know where we are going, but I sure as hell am keeping my eyes open!
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Re: Marxism vs The Constitution

PostBy: Complete Heat On: Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:30 pm

SAU,

A lot of the guys I served with see the writing on the wall, so much so that one Special Forces soldier started a newsletter call The Resistance. It contains articles on how the military is being used contrary to the Posse Comitatus laws. The Army is pissed about this newsletter, but cannot track down who started it, or who is running it. The founder used "cells" to create it, so it can never be taken down. De Oppresso Liber (free the oppressed), I never thought it would be us. For instance, our unit was engaged to catch some guys growing some funny weeds. The way it was done was to declare the area of operation a "military training area", and that allows us to detain people until proper ID can be made and verified. Chase the drug runners down, detain them for the sheriff to run a check on who they are, and if they have a warrant... shazam, what a coincidence. The scary thing is that the government has run studies with the USMC to find out how many would be willing to shoot US citizens if ordered to do so. The question posed was... If guns are outlawed, and people refused to turn them in, would you (the soldier) be willing to use lethal force to gain compliance. I believe the number came out to 60% said yes. That comes down to a poor education on the part of the individual not understanding that ALL of the rights enumerated in the Constitution do not come from the government, but rather from God. Your rights existed before the Constitution was even written, and the government, contrary to what they want you to believe, cannot take them away. We are traveling down a very scary road at breakneck speeds, the government is not following the Constitution at all (which is why we have these problems in the first place), and the masses do not even say boo. When this house of cards comes crashing down, which it will, there will be a lot of pain and misery for those who cannot do for themselves. Maybe then there will be some "true reform".

A couple of great books to read, besides history books dealing with Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Rome, is The Confessions of an Economic Hitman, The Creature From Jekyl Island, and Unintended Consequences. The first two will get your blood boiling. Henry Ford said that if people understood the Federal Reserve system, there would be a revolution. It is the FRS that is largely responsible for the economic woes that we have today.


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Re: Marxism vs The Constitution

PostBy: Duengeon master On: Wed Dec 24, 2008 7:25 pm

Black_And_Blue wrote:
Complete Heat wrote:The Constitution is dead, and has been for a long time.

Mike


Keep your powder dry........ ;)
At what point will some smart governor from a state say to congress "You will either stop taking away our libertys and freedoms or we will vote on sucession from the union." I personally have had enough of the govt. taxing me and regulating the living daylights out of everything we do! :mad:
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Re: Marxism vs The Constitution

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:54 pm

Duengeon master wrote:
Black_And_Blue wrote:
Complete Heat wrote:The Constitution is dead, and has been for a long time.

Mike


Keep your powder dry........ ;)
At what point will some smart governor from a state say to congress "You will either stop taking away our libertys and freedoms or we will vote on sucession from the union." I personally have had enough of the govt. taxing me and regulating the living daylights out of everything we do! :mad:


That ship sailed in 1861 and sank in 1865.
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Re: Marxism vs The Constitution

PostBy: ErikLaurence On: Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:02 pm

Duengeon master wrote:
Black_And_Blue wrote:
Complete Heat wrote:The Constitution is dead, and has been for a long time.

Mike


Keep your powder dry........ ;)
At what point will some smart governor from a state say to congress "You will either stop taking away our libertys and freedoms or we will vote on sucession from the union." I personally have had enough of the govt. taxing me and regulating the living daylights out of everything we do! :mad:


Something like this?

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_scarsec.asp
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Re: Marxism vs The Constitution

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:35 pm

Watch Out SAU the army is sending an interagation team & a water board your way to find out if you know who started that news letter.
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Re: Marxism vs The Constitution

PostBy: SAU On: Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:10 am

Not scared, fear is slavery, no matter the source.
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Re: Marxism vs The Constitution

PostBy: Duengeon master On: Fri Dec 26, 2008 10:41 am

ErikLaurence wrote:quote="Black_And_Blue"]
Complete Heat wrote:The Constitution is dead, and has been for a long time.

Mike


Keep your powder dry........ ;)quote]

Something like this?

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_scarsec.asp
The problem today is that in most states there exists the institutional form of slavery today. By wharehousing certain groups of people in govt housing, giving them just enough to keep them from complaining too much, forcing them to attend failing schools giving them a losy education that teaches self esteem and globalism instead of MATH, READING, and SCIENCE. This guarantees a new generation of an ignorant underclass that will blindly follow the party that will promise them the world. This group has been complaining about these problems for over fourty years. Give them and all of us back our freedoms and libertys. Give these groups school vouchers. The ONLY key to anyones' freedom is an education.
The tenth amendment to the constitution says that anything not innumerated in the bill of rights shall be reserved to the states.
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Re: Marxism vs The Constitution

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:42 pm

Complete Heat wrote:
......The question posed was... If guns are outlawed, and people refused to turn them in, would you (the soldier) be willing to use lethal force to gain compliance. I believe the number came out to 60% said yes.

Mike


I'm not doubting your facts or position ( I share them ) but I am interested in the source data.

Do you have a links that we can be provided ?
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