Obama Youth in Paramilitary Garb Chant Propaganda

Obama Youth in Paramilitary Garb Chant Propaganda

PostBy: SAU On: Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:49 pm

Oh brother.




Integrate service into learning:

Obama and Biden will set a goal that all middle and high school students do 50 hours of community service a year, and will establish a new tax credit that is worth $4,000 a year in exchange for 100 hours of public service a year.


http://www.barackobama.com/issues/service/
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Re: Obama Youth in Paramilitary Garb Chant Propaganda

PostBy: Poconoeagle On: Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:56 pm

:o no comment :!:
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Re: Obama Youth in Paramilitary Garb Chant Propaganda

PostBy: JohnMck On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:41 am

Where can I get a pair of those gold work boots?
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PostBy: lincolnmania On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:56 am

this is really bad
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Re: Obama Youth in Paramilitary Garb Chant Propaganda

PostBy: kootch88 On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:19 pm

A bunch of cheerleaders with no spirit or rythm!!
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Re: Obama Youth in Paramilitary Garb Chant Propaganda

PostBy: tvb On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:38 pm

I wonder if that video would elicit a different reaction if it was a bunch of girls in cheerleading outfits saying the same thing?

As Kootch points out, they are a bunch of kids cheering - who happen to have camo pants as part of their costume.
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PostBy: kootch88 On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:42 pm

I could care less what they wear or cheer about. It is better than gathering in the mountains of Montana figuring out how to overthrow the government. I just wish they had some talkent in presenting themselves. These guys really sucked!!
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PostBy: SAU On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:01 pm

kootch88 wrote:I could care less what they wear or cheer about. It is better than gathering in the mountains of Montana figuring out how to overthrow the government. I just wish they had some talkent in presenting themselves. These guys really sucked!!



They don't want to overthrow the government, They want the government to leave them alone. They don't want anything from you and they don't want to give anything to you. Those kids on the other hand have been indoctrinated to believe that they have a right to your wealth and your future wages. Sounds like theft via government to me. Good to know who here endorses theft.
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PostBy: kootch88 On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:46 pm

Give me a break SAU. The groups in Montana that have been Illegally cashing weapons are law breakers. Period. You may not like it, but what they did was illegal, and last time I checked, we are a nation of laws, like them or not. I am not particularly fond of many laws, but that is life. The country or the world is beholden to me, you or the nuts in Montana. And as far as those kids are concerned, tell me who is more a threat to America, the nuts with the weapons, bent on overthrowing our government violently with their weapons or the kids who are hoping supposedly (at least you say so) hoping for a handout vs. the guys with the grenade launchers and automatic weapons? The sad thing is many people are willing to support or endorse a group of nut cases with room temperature warm IQ's armed to the teeth and breaking the law rather than a bunch of kids who are supposedly trying to raise themselves up a bit. I did not hear one of them say they wanted to take your or my money via a graduated tax. I did hear they wanted to be an engineer or pilot or whatever, but nothing of the handouts. Where did you hear that?
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PostBy: SAU On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:52 pm

Fear mongering, provide links. I operate in reality and I need facts.

Oh, And show me where government created wealth comes from. The end of the video talks about the handouts without saying where the money will come from.
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PostBy: kootch88 On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:14 pm

Ok, here are some of the folks you speak so highly of: All of these groups can not be lumped into this group, but a large majority can.

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/america ... ntana.html

http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/mom.asp ... 3&item=mom

http://www.hcn.org/issues/108/3397


I never advocated the creation of wealth through the government, so lay that responsibility elsewhere. As far as the video is concerned, I just don't see anything about it that is interesting other than a bunch of kids who are appear to be really lousy at what they are doing. So why is it you assume they are looking to you or us for the handout? Show me some evidence of that.
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PostBy: SAU On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:49 pm

kootch88 wrote:Ok, here are some of the folks you speak so highly of: All of these groups can not be lumped into this group, but a large majority can.

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/orgs/america ... ntana.html

http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/mom.asp ... 3&item=mom

http://www.hcn.org/issues/108/3397


I never advocated the creation of wealth through the government, so lay that responsibility elsewhere. As far as the video is concerned, I just don't see anything about it that is interesting other than a bunch of kids who are appear to be really lousy at what they are doing. So why is it you assume they are looking to you or us for the handout? Show me some evidence of that.



You didn't finish watching the video or you you don't hear what they are saying at the end. You have yet to show me where the huge illegal weapons cashe is or was. Just how many people "out west" do you think are involved in such groups? tens of thousands? millions? Thousands? Your fear of these supposed groups is irrational. What isn't irrational is knowing that I am forced to give 40% of my wages to a government that spends the money on things that are of no benefit to myself or the nation at large.

"A government that is large enough to supply everything you need is large enough to take everything you have"

Thomas Jefferson
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PostBy: tvb On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:57 pm

Paying taxes is a civic responsibility - without it no roads, no hospitals, no lots of stuff the gov't provides for. I've just spent 8 years paying for a war I am against. I don't like paying for it one bit but, pay I must. Frankly, I look forward to seeing some of my tax dollars supporting the dreams and health of my fellow Americans instead of killing people, supporting corporate welfare queens like AIG, banks, and Wall Street robber barons.

If my tax dollars pay the education of one of those kids, I'll be proud to be an American.
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PostBy: billw On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:39 pm

SAU wrote:Fear mongering, provide links. I operate in reality and I need facts.

Oh, And show me where government created wealth comes from. The end of the video talks about the handouts without saying where the money will come from.

And how old are they? 15-16? Do you actually expect them to know where the money comes from? The last 40 something year old president inspired a generation to become engineers, physicists and astronauts. His name was John Kennedy. I didn't hear one of those kids say Obama inspired them to be the next pimp, drug pusher or welfare cheat. I hope every one of those kids becomes successful tax paying wage earners.

Not investing in our youth is as short sighted as giving the banks 700 billion without any oversight.
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PostBy: kootch88 On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:07 pm

You didn't finish watching the video or you you don't hear what they are saying at the end. You have yet to show me where the huge illegal weapons cashe is or was. Just how many people "out west" do you think are involved in such groups? tens of thousands? millions? Thousands? Your fear of these supposed groups is irrational. What isn't irrational is knowing that I am forced to give 40% of my wages to a government that spends the money on things that are of no benefit to myself or the nation at large.


Since I work for a living and I assume you do too, it will be hard for me to hold your hand and lead you to the arms cashe that was found. The last time I heard of any significant arms was about ten years ago. When I get time to do some looking I am sure I an find an old report, but then that report will probably be considered propaganda or planted weapons.

I have no idea how many folks "out west" are involved in this sort of thing, but it isn't only out west. There are groups involved in this sort of thing all over the country in small pockets. Unfortunately there is also a huge group of criminals that also have plenty of illegal weapons. I saw a few months ago the Russian mafia is growing in Europe and the US. I never spoke of any fear of these groups either, and I do not stay awake at night worrying about them. As far as your taxable income, I am glad you make enough to be taxed at a 40% rate. I hope once the economy turns around I will be right there with you. This is not irrational to pay these taxes. I think we must pay taxes as citizens of a country so we can have a rock solid military, great roads, spectacular parks cared for by our government employees, fire fighters willing to put their asses on the line and all the other trappings that come with civilization. If you do not like civilization, consider moving to a place where there is no real civilization like Afghanistan. The taxes there are very low. I think the lack of a civilized world will make it hard to prosper however, unless you are a war lord. . That seems to be a growing industry around the world. That great living you make is a direct result of all these taxes you pay so we do not have anarchy.

Nice quote from Jefferson. Seems to me it is obvious our government isn't that big yet, and I am for smaller, more efficient government by the way.
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