18" from sheetrock wall, but the wall is VERY hot.

Re: 18" from sheetrock wall, but the wall is VERY hot.

PostBy: MidnightMadman On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:12 am

rockwood wrote:How big is the room with this stove in it?
Does the room get quite hot, like above 80 degrees?

If the stove is in a small room, alcove etc. that doesn't let the hot air circulate (away) from the stove will result in everything being hotter than it should be.


Its in my finished basement.. about 800 sq feet.
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Re: 18" from sheetrock wall, but the wall is VERY hot.

PostBy: coal berner On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:15 am

MidnightMadman wrote:
coal berner wrote:
MidnightMadman wrote:My stove is the recommend distance of 18" from sheetrock wall, but the wall is VERY hot. I had the stove about 700 getting it going earlier and that wall just seems too hot.
Should I be worried?

Mid Does your SCR have the heat shield on the back with the heat shield on the back the clearance is 18" for the back of stove and 19" from Flue Pipe. Sides of stove is 20" Flue Pipe is 30" If not the stove should be 36" away from anything that can catch fire does you sheet rock have paper on it. Paper starts to burn at 319F. If you see it start to turn brown it is getting to hot. If you use Millboard Or Equivalent 8" Clearance for back & sides Front of stove should be 16" Look at
the 8th post on the link below. You can download The Gibraltar Manual if you do not have one. Look in section E for Clearances.

GIBRALTAR STOVE


Yes it has a shield that is off the stove 1". Heres a picture.

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Why is the coal banking bar laying on the floor behind the stove. :lol: It should be in the stove up front behind the loading door.You will beable to stick more coal in the stove with it in there. If it is a Extra one would you like to sell it .
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Re: 18" from sheetrock wall, but the wall is VERY hot.

PostBy: kootch88 On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:21 am

MM. it looks to me like you have no heat protection on the wall itself. That is what we are talking about for wall protection. If what I am seeing is correct, you still have moulding on the wall and no heat protection on your wall. Is that correct?
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Re: 18" from sheetrock wall, but the wall is VERY hot.

PostBy: gambler On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:00 am

kootch88 wrote:MM. it looks to me like you have no heat protection on the wall itself. That is what we are talking about for wall protection. If what I am seeing is correct, you still have moulding on the wall and no heat protection on your wall. Is that correct?


That means 18" from a NON COMBUSTIBLE surface. Is the sheetrock beyond the protection what is hot or the sheetrock behind the protective barrier hot?



If you look at page 9 of the manual it states "look at the plate on the stove to get clearance to combustibles and in this case his stove says 18"
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Re: 18" from sheetrock wall, but the wall is VERY hot.

PostBy: rockwood On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:06 am

rockwood wrote:From reading the manual for your stove it looks like 18" is correct. Is your wall behind the stove too hot to hold your hand on?


That's the way I took it also.

Midnight, check your PMs.
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Re: 18" from sheetrock wall, but the wall is VERY hot.

PostBy: MidnightMadman On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:54 am

Why is the coal banking bar laying on the floor behind the stove. :lol: It should be in the stove up front behind the loading door.You will beable to stick more coal in the stove with it in there. If it is a Extra one would you like to sell it .[/quote]


That banking plate is now in the stove. It is warped and has a bow to it, it still works. I just didnt put it in when I got the thing fired up yesterday.
I am wondering if I can fit more coal without it though?
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Re: 18" from sheetrock wall, but the wall is VERY hot.

PostBy: MidnightMadman On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:55 am

rockwood wrote:
rockwood wrote:From reading the manual for your stove it looks like 18" is correct. Is your wall behind the stove too hot to hold your hand on?


That's the way I took it also.

Midnight, check your PMs.


ok. guys. so technically I am safe according the the stove specs. I may look into some kind of brick or something for the wall anyway.
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Re: 18" from sheetrock wall, but the wall is VERY hot.

PostBy: ken On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:13 am

Freddy's idea sounds like the way to go. My keystoker manual says 12" from the sides. I have the stove at an angle and the rear corner is (was) 12". The wall was very hot to the touch. I moved the corner 18" away , now it's just warm. So much for the manual.
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Re: 18" from sheetrock wall, but the wall is VERY hot.

PostBy: gambler On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:20 am

ken wrote:Freddy's idea sounds like the way to go. My keystoker manual says 12" from the sides. I have the stove at an angle and the rear corner is (was) 12". The wall was very hot to the touch. I moved the corner 18" away , now it's just warm. So much for the manual.


I agree. I would still put something on the wall.
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Temporary Measure...

PostBy: eelhc On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:11 pm

Screw a piece of Durock on the wall... Maybe with some spacers between it and the sheetrock so air can get back there to cool. It can probably made to look nice enough make it permanent.

BTW... given all your trouble installing and lighting this stove.. I think you might just be the most resilient dude I've run into yet here (of course, I've only been here for ~2 months).
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Re: 18" from sheetrock wall, but the wall is VERY hot.

PostBy: JIMTORL On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:52 pm

You should not let the dry-wall get too hot. It can turn back to powder.If you exceed 150 degrees for an extended peroid of time it damages the drywall by causing a reaction the drive the H2O molucules out
My guess the wall is Type X not Fire code C and there is a difference with these 2 types. Fire code C is designed to take heat for a longer time before it degrades. With fire test Fire Code C will burn thru in just less than a hour and is rarely used in residential construction. Type X can burn thru in around 20 min. and is almost allways used in residential.
Like eelhc said I would put Durarock cement board or some other protective board up that will not degrade with heat to protect the wall.
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Re: 18" from sheetrock wall, but the wall is VERY hot.

PostBy: MidnightMadman On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:45 pm

The guy I bought the stove from had some nice rock work that was heat resistant. He said he bought it at a local store but they told me they dont sell it.
I locks together and looks like gray stone... anyone know what it is or where I can find it?
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Re: 18" from sheetrock wall, but the wall is VERY hot.

PostBy: tvb On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:50 pm

Any type of rock (well, with one minor exception) is fire resistant. You probably want to take the advice of those who wrote about leaving a space. You could mount the rock or manufactured rock on a board, put a nice edge on it and put that up using spacers.
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Re: 18" from sheetrock wall, but the wall is VERY hot.

PostBy: coalkirk On: Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:19 pm

I wouldn't worry about the drywall but the heat transfers right thorugh the drywall to the studs. That's the concern.
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Re: 18" from sheetrock wall, but the wall is VERY hot.

PostBy: hyway61 On: Wed Dec 17, 2008 9:40 am

I looked at some of the optional shields sold by Morso and Harman and decided to fashion my own from sheet metal. My shield covers the back of the stove and bends ard the left and right sides...and it comes over the top tilting forward. It rest on the mantle behind the stove and is about two inches clearance from the stove on all clearances. I haven't attached it to the stove yet, but might not to faciltate cleaning up operations. Works very well and reflects and projects heat forward for about 18$... Apparently, Ok as approved by the decorating commisar of the house, too... :)

..hyway61
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