By the time I get a stove, I will probably know every make and model there is to know. But, as mentioned several times before, I have not been ready to commit to a full time coal burner, until now.
Having decided to move a Vermont Casting's Defiant Encore stove into my living room, I am now inclined to purchase a used hand fired stove. Reason being, that if I like it enough, I may consider a stoker, but would rather save a few bucks up front.
I have just located a used Mark III stove for $750.00. Waiting for a reply from the seller as to how old it is. Could anyone tell me the aprox. value of used coal stoves that are 3-6 years old? I am not even sure how much the Mark III is brand new, but if you feel that it is a good value, how high a price would be too much.
Once again, thanks so much for any advise you can share.
What Is a Fair Price for a Used Mark II or III?
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I just bought a nice used Mark III with brass trim for $250.00. The guy just didn't want it anymore since he decided that oil heat was easier. His loss, my gain. A coat of new paint and a little brass polishing and she looks brand new! I have seen them used anywhere from $600.00 - $1,200 in my area. The brass trim adds some value so that would be a factor. I think $750.00 would be quite fair but I am no expert. A new one locally runs $1,800 and some change (plus tax!) so anything close to half of new, or better should be a deal. Not sure I helped but this is my input.
Keep in mind that the Mark series stoves are fine for wood as well. I was told that the dealers just can't recommend the use of wood, (per Harman) anymore but in the past the Mark series was advertised as "coal & wood", not sure why they don't say it anymore but my dealer actually told me this. They said "off the record" it is still fine for wood as well. They just won't advertise it as being for both anymore. So you should have no risk with the Mark III should you opt not to burn coal and switch to wood. I am planning on burning both in mine. Just have to start making time to cut some!
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That is an INCREDIBLE deal! In fact, if you're willing to sell it for $750 and make yourself a little profit, please let me know. In my case, I have now bid on a Mark III up to $900 that sold for $1175, on a Consolidated Dutchwest 264CCL which I bid up to $380 and sold for $455, and though I did not bid on a used 20+ year old Vigilant, it too sold for $860!
Several weeks back, using DClassifieds, I did locate a Mark III for around $700, only it was over 17 years old. I can only imagine how worn that unit was.
So, my offer still stands, anyone with a USED Wood/Coal burner, or dedicated coal burner interested in selling to me, please contact. I do appreciate knowing that there is that chance of getting a great deal if you just happen to be in the right place at the right time. Hopefully my time will come soon...
On a brighter note, I have available 3 downed trees that I can cut and split at my leisure for next year's heating season... and still have aprox. 2 cords of aged wood that I have cut, and just need splitting.
Thanks for your ray of hope.
Several weeks back, using DClassifieds, I did locate a Mark III for around $700, only it was over 17 years old. I can only imagine how worn that unit was.
So, my offer still stands, anyone with a USED Wood/Coal burner, or dedicated coal burner interested in selling to me, please contact. I do appreciate knowing that there is that chance of getting a great deal if you just happen to be in the right place at the right time. Hopefully my time will come soon...
On a brighter note, I have available 3 downed trees that I can cut and split at my leisure for next year's heating season... and still have aprox. 2 cords of aged wood that I have cut, and just need splitting.
Thanks for your ray of hope.
Thanks for the offer, but I can't replace it without shelling out alot more unfortunately. If I hear of any others though I will keep you in mind. Ya never know what might come along.... Keep searching, you'll find the right one at the right price. Funny thing about mine is I was hesitant to buy it at first as I had no idea what it was worth. I've never had to pay much for a stove and I still wasn't sure I wanted to spend $250.00. I had an old wood stove in my unfinished basement that worked fine but wasn't very pretty, but I didn't care. Only reason I bought the Mark III was because I finished the basement earlier in the year and wanted a nicer looking unit. It was after I bought it that I realized what I had. I was pretty lucky.
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Yes, lucky indeed! and I do appreciate if you locate another that is for sale..Seems that Ebay is for gamblers, and Craigslist is not often up to date, and dclassifieds is helpful, but rare to find a coal stove. So I keep my fingers crossed that a Harman Series stove will come my way, at a price worth taking a chance on.
Frankly, if I am going to pay as high as 3/4 of a new stove, I'd be better off just buying it new...only I don't have an extra $1800 laying around that I can spend...sure would be nice if the mother of my boys(who live with me) paid a little child support...seeing that they have lived with me the last 6+ years since she moved out. So my quest for a used stove, is based on the state of economics.
Considering I have two pellet stoves worth in excess of $3000 and a Monitor Kerosene Heater that I purchased for nearly $2000, it would be nice to zero in one one affordable and consistently available fuel source.
Maybe someone is interested in a trade?
Frankly, if I am going to pay as high as 3/4 of a new stove, I'd be better off just buying it new...only I don't have an extra $1800 laying around that I can spend...sure would be nice if the mother of my boys(who live with me) paid a little child support...seeing that they have lived with me the last 6+ years since she moved out. So my quest for a used stove, is based on the state of economics.
Considering I have two pellet stoves worth in excess of $3000 and a Monitor Kerosene Heater that I purchased for nearly $2000, it would be nice to zero in one one affordable and consistently available fuel source.
Maybe someone is interested in a trade?
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Harman stoves are made of very thick material. Even older models can still be well worth over half of what they would go for brand new. The only thing to worry about on a used Harman stove, is to make sure that the upper part of the inside of the stove is not burnt away, and in need of new metal. I guess that part is called a deflector, not sure... Mark III stoves, weigh over 500 pounds, so you are talking heavy duty material. I paid $750.00 for my used Harman mark III, and that was approx. 3 years ago. I would have went higher, if need be.. I would have went as high as 1k, but I was looking for a real good deal. Hope this helps!
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That is correct..... They do not pass EPA Standards for the US. What that means is, the older stoves that were manufactured prior to this law, can still burn wood legally, in the US. So, if you find a used Harman, that is over 10, or so years old.... One that was manufactured before the EPA made that law, then you may legally burn wood in that stove. So, we are talking about Harman stoves that had the 3 single windows in the door, and not the large single, as they are today. Hope this helps!!bugize wrote: in relation to the comment about why Harman don't advertise the ability to burn wood is...the U.S standards,they fit the Canada codes for wood burning but not the U.S...that info is in my owners manual!