help with my pocono

help with my pocono

PostBy: scotty On: Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:43 am

my pocono acted a little funny to me, saturday night +9 degrees at night set coal trol at 70 and house stayed around 70 all night . Last night +9 but a little more windy coal trol at 70 and the house was 62 when I got up at 5:30 the weird thing ,it burned ,very little coal for the night , like around 15 lbs, I now have the coal trol at 77 and things are getting cranked up!! any ideas????????
MY first year with this so I'm learning everyday, thanks for everyone's help,
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Re: help with my pocono

PostBy: WNY On: Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:59 am

Check your ash pan, see if any Clinkers formed and stopped the feed temporary and then let loose? Not sure, that's weird.
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Re: help with my pocono

PostBy: choyt002 On: Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:43 pm

Sounds weird, maybe check your min and max settings on the coal-trol make sure they didn't accidentally get changed.
Chris H

edit: another thing I just thought of was maybe the coal made a tunnel in your hopper and then finally fell and started feeding again some post have metioned that if the coal is wet and sticks it makes a tunnel out in the center of hopper no coal no heat.
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Re: help with my pocono

PostBy: WNY On: Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:46 pm

Or, you are loosing alot of heat when it gets really cold and the wind blowing and the stove can't keep up?
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Re: help with my pocono

PostBy: tuck57 On: Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:45 pm

Most of my issues have been when I adjusted the coal-trol unit and didn't return it to the round robin display. A few days ago when it got much colder and windier I raised the upper feed limit to 45 and left for work. When my wife got up a bit later the house was 76* instead the 72* that I had it set at. If you adjust the coal-trol in that time frame that could have been the problem.

Ken
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Re: help with my pocono

PostBy: Jerry & Karen On: Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:36 pm

Hi Ken,
If you adjust the min or max and do not go back out, it will lock in at the min or max settings and ignore the thermostat.
Jerry
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Re: help with my pocono

PostBy: rinks135 On: Mon Jan 12, 2009 10:38 am

i have a pocono back vent with power venter i have a older home with new windows but it has plaster walls i have the max at 47 the min at 6 and the hlf at 1 i have the power venter turn down to about a quarter and my grate is still burning full i don't have a 1" or 2" of ash in front of it my house is about 1350 square feet i have it in the basement with to vent off the top to my living room and dining room i had the temp at 74 and the house was 69 degrees when i got up could anyone please help thanks
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Re: help with my pocono

PostBy: gambler On: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:28 am

rinks135 wrote:i have a pocono back vent with power venter i have a older home with new windows but it has plaster walls i have the max at 47 the min at 6 and the hlf at 1 i have the power venter turn down to about a quarter and my grate is still burning full i don't have a 1" or 2" of ash in front of it my house is about 1350 square feet i have it in the basement with to vent off the top to my living room and dining room i had the temp at 74 and the house was 69 degrees when i got up could anyone please help thanks


With the stove in the basement you are no longer heating 1350sqft. You are now heating 2700sqft and it sounds like most of the heat is not coming to the first floor but is staying in the basement where I'll bet you have no insulation on the walls. What temps do you have on the front of the stove and on the stove pipe? Do you have a way to measure your draft? (manometer). To get the air to flow to your living room did you block off the front of the stove to force the air up your duct? Are you using the stove blower or duct fan to move the heat in your duct to the living room?
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Re: help with my pocono

PostBy: rinks135 On: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:22 am

gambler wrote:
rinks135 wrote:i have a pocono back vent with power venter i have a older home with new windows but it has plaster walls i have the max at 47 the min at 6 and the hlf at 1 i have the power venter turn down to about a quarter and my grate is still burning full i don't have a 1" or 2" of ash in front of it my house is about 1350 square feet i have it in the basement with to vent off the top to my living room and dining room i had the temp at 74 and the house was 69 degrees when i got up could anyone please help thanks


With the stove in the basement you are no longer heating 1350sqft. You are now heating 2700sqft and it sounds like most of the heat is not coming to the first floor but is staying in the basement where I'll bet you have no insulation on the walls. What temps do you have on the front of the stove and on the stove pipe? Do you have a way to measure your draft? (manometer). To get the air to flow to your living room did you block off the front of the stove to force the air up your duct? Are you using the stove blower or duct fan to move the heat in your duct to the living room?
i'am using the 2 blowers that comes with the stove do you think if i buy 2 6inch pipe with fan that would help because right now i'am not to happy with my stove after the guy told me it would should of done more research thanks steve
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Re: help with my pocono

PostBy: WNY On: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:33 am

How are you getting the hot air upstairs currently? Yes, 2 - 6" or 8" ducts should help get the heat upstairs.

I think you can make it work, just get some duct work and run a couple lines upstairs.

When people are selling these stoves, they don't know that it will be in a basement. Yes, they say it will heat XX sq. feet, but that is if you have it placed where you want to heat.

Our 90K Keystoker heated our other house 1st and 2nd floor pretty well (1800 Sq. Ft), BUT it was on the First floor in the middle of the house.

STOVES are normally for your living area, that is why they make Furnaces type stoves for your basement, they have more capacity and bigger blowers to be hooked into your duct work.
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Re: help with my pocono

PostBy: rinks135 On: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:38 am

WNY wrote:How are you getting the hot air upstairs currently? Yes, 2 - 6" or 8" ducts should help get the heat upstairs.

I think you can make it work, just get some duct work and run a couple lines upstairs.

When people are selling these stoves, they don't know that it will be in a basement. Yes, they say it will heat XX sq. feet, but that is if you have it placed where you want to heat.

Our 90K Keystoker heated our other house 1st and 2nd floor pretty well (1800 Sq. Ft), BUT it was on the First floor in the middle of the house.

STOVES are normally for your living area, that is why they make Furnaces type stoves for your basement, they have more capacity and bigger blowers to be hooked into your duct work.
i have the duct off the top of stove to my upstairs and the place i bought it installed it for me
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Re: help with my pocono

PostBy: WNY On: Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:58 am

Is the heat coming out pretty hot or warm? Have you measured it? How far a run is the pipe from your stove upstairs?

I would turn the thermostat up to a few degrees (maybe 5) above room temp and let it run for a while (an hour or so) check the FR (Feed Rate) and see how high it gets, then check the stove to see how much ash you have at the end.

If are you are 90% FR or higher and you still have a lot of ash at the end of the grate (more than 1" approx) and still not getting the thermostat satisfied, bump up your max by a couple points (48, 50, etc..) and check it an hour later.
You may have to DIAL your stove in by adjusting the MAX feed up by a few points each time to get the max heat out of your stove. Sometimes trial and error.
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