Coal Stove Question?

 
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Post by Mr_Detail » Wed. Dec. 24, 2008 10:42 am

Ashcat,
Thanks for the info. I am about 33 miles away from Mr. Stoltzfus. I can make it there in about 45 minutes or so. That price quote of $1399 is pretty good considering that the blower option looks to be a $200 extra. About the blower, if this is supposed to be a totally manual coal stove, what powers the blower? A battery back-up type set up. As stated in an earlier post, I really want this setup to be self-sufficient and not relying on any power as if the grid is down indefinitely.

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!

 
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Post by coal berner » Wed. Dec. 24, 2008 11:19 am

Mr_Detail wrote:Hello all. This is my first post and I am gathering information about coal stoves as an alternative heat source if and when the power goes out for an extended period. I was originally looking at buying a pellet stove but due to the power issue and the rising cost of pellets I am re-considering my options. Since I live in S.E. Pennsylvania I should be able to put my hands on some bags of coal I hope.

Tell what you think of this scenario. I want to install the stove in my basement right next to my new natural gas furnace which no longer uses our old chimney as a vent because it can be vented at ground level which it is. The chimney is now available for use. The thing I am trying to verify is whether or not I can purchase either a new or used coal stove that will heat my 1500 sq. ft. home without the need of any power.
Is this a possibility?
There are many good stove companies ot there take you time and do some reading you will find the right one for your
setup and bigger is aways better you can control the heat out put on any air tight hand fed stove . The problem is with a small limited BTU output stove. You are stuck with what you got if it is to small to begin with . A bigger BTU output stove
will always have enough BTU output and you can control the burn to where you need it . Here are the companies you want to look at Good luck on your hunt . Oh And don't be shy at looking at used ones there are a lot of good deals out there .

Gibraltar stove co.
Are Out of Production but you can find used one out there and parts are still Available for them .
IMHO They are the best built hand fed stove ever made & I had & Burned alot of hand fed stoves over the years.
by far these are the best . Very heavy and well built . They produce alot of heat and will give you long burn times between loads . Keep a eye out for them in local Papers and on this forum. Also on these two Classified Paper's below.


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Post by coal berner » Wed. Dec. 24, 2008 11:24 am

Mr_Detail wrote:Ashcat,
Thanks for the info. I am about 33 miles away from Mr. Stoltzfus. I can make it there in about 45 minutes or so. That price quote of $1399 is pretty good considering that the blower option looks to be a $200 extra. About the blower, if this is supposed to be a totally manual coal stove, what powers the blower? A battery back-up type set up. As stated in an earlier post, I really want this setup to be self-sufficient and not relying on any power as if the grid is down indefinitely.

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!
The blowers fans are meant to wash the hot air off the stove and into the room for more heat .
They also keep the stoves running a cooler temp.


 
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Post by Devil505 » Wed. Dec. 24, 2008 11:40 am

coal berner wrote:The blowers fans are meant to wash the hot air off the stove and into the room for more heat .
They also keep the stoves running a cooler temp.
Right....They make your hand fired stove heat your home more efficiently but are not required for your stove to work. A stoker, on the other hand, will simply stop working at all (in a fairly short amount of time) without electricity.
(I'm no stoker expert but I believe they will usually go out in under 15 minutes w/o electricity)

 
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Post by acesover » Wed. Dec. 24, 2008 11:46 am

Lutz coal, just the other side of Skippack $12 a 100lb. bag, good coal too.
Ray

 
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Post by coal berner » Wed. Dec. 24, 2008 12:00 pm

acesover wrote:Lutz coal, just the other side of Skippack $12 a 100lb. bag, good coal too.
Ray
Lutz coal sells Blaschak coal Just FYI


 
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Post by coal berner » Wed. Dec. 24, 2008 12:02 pm

Devil505 wrote:
coal berner wrote:The blowers fans are meant to wash the hot air off the stove and into the room for more heat .
They also keep the stoves running a cooler temp.
Right....They make your hand fired stove heat your home more efficiently but are not required for your stove to work. A stoker, on the other hand, will simply stop working at all (in a fairly short amount of time) without electricity.
(I'm no stoker expert but I believe they will usually go out in under 15 minutes w/o electricity)
Yea I know I am Right who do you think told you to put a fan on your stove and run it with one ;)
It only took your 26-30 Years of burning a stove to find that out :lol:

 
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Post by Devil505 » Wed. Dec. 24, 2008 2:35 pm

coal berner wrote:Yea I know I am Right who do you think told you to put a fan on your stove and run it with one ;)
It only took your 26-30 Years of burning a stove to find that out :lol:
Alright...Alright!!...So you had TWO good suggestions last year:

1. Install a blower fan (House has never been more comfortable since I did that!) :up:

2. Put coal in the stove &.......,.,.(here's the key part)...... light it on fire! (damn good idea too!!) :funny: :cheers:
(although I must complain that now I go thru allot more coal with it burning than when I just had it sitting in the stove, unlit!.......My old way would get a whole winter out of one 40lb bag!!....& NO DUST!!) :mad:

 
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Post by 218Bee » Sat. Dec. 27, 2008 10:13 am

(I'm no stoker expert but I believe they will usually go out in under 15 minutes w/o electricity)
Just a FYI (and I'm no expert either), we lost power for the better part of two hours on Christmas Eve and the KA-6 never lost fire. I didn't have heat, however, as the circ pumps need juice. But the fire held without either of the combustion fans.

I was duly impressed. When the power came back the fire snapped to life and I went to bed (didn't want to disturb Santa).

I was hoping it was a relatively short outage, so's I wouldn't have to fire the generator up. The linemen did a great job of getting the juice squared away.

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