Clayton 1600 Problems

Re: Clayton 1600 Problems

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:57 am

Did you just measure the wrong flue or is the chimney 14x14 on the top and 8x8 at the bottom thimble?
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Re: Clayton 1600 Problems

PostBy: eng11ine On: Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:33 pm

The top 3 feet or so is 14x14 then the res to the thimble is 8x8. The thimble is Approx 14x14
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Re: Clayton 1600 Problems

PostBy: North Candlewood On: Sun Jan 04, 2009 2:54 pm

What are you measuring? when you give us the measurements
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Re: Clayton 1600 Problems

PostBy: eng11ine On: Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:05 pm

I'm measuring the inside dimensions. the chimmney is red brick, not lined.
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Stove/Furnace Model: 1600

Re: Clayton 1600 Problems

PostBy: DOUG On: Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:10 pm

If your chimney is not lined with clay tile in good repair or a stainless steel chimney liner in good repair, I would not use the chimney. It is a safety issue.
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Re: Clayton 1600 Problems

PostBy: DOUG On: Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:16 pm

There maybe cracks in the mortar that fumes or fire will escape possibly igniting close combustibles or emitting CO gases into the living space, not good. Plus the extra uncontrolled draft entering the chimney will make it impossible to control the fire.
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Re: Clayton 1600 Problems

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:22 pm

A brick lined chimney is OK to use with coal if it is not compromised, large cracks or missing bricks.
As always ask a professional to see if it is ok for coal.
SS liner will work to fix draft issues.
But make sure a lack of draft is the issue, if the draft is too strong and your baro is 'pegging' itself then a larger baro is in order.
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Re: Clayton 1600 Problems

PostBy: eng11ine On: Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:15 pm

I did have the Chimmney inspected before I converted back over to coal. The chimmney sweep did an excellent job and also ran a camera down to inspect the middle of the chimmney. I had to do this for my Homeowner's insurance. The inspector said the chimmney was ok to use for coal. Surprisingly there wasn't much loose motar throughout.

what did you mean by a bigger Baro damper. My furnace outlet is 6 in. Is it possible to install a bigger baro?
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Re: Clayton 1600 Problems

PostBy: DOUG On: Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:25 pm

You can use a larger sized barometric draft regulator, say 8" and use an 8" to a 6" reducer, if you want. But I think you will be fine with the six inch you have.
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Re: Clayton 1600 Problems

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:27 pm

If it is not pegging wide open it is not an issue, yet.
The extra large opening at the top may be creating some kind of funk with the draft.
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Re: Clayton 1600 Problems

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:44 pm

CapeCoaler wrote:If it is not pegging wide open it is not an issue, yet.
The extra large opening at the top may be creating some kind of funk with the draft.


It will reduce the velocity of the exiting gasses at the enlarged end, but I doubt that it would have much impact on total draft. IIRC we are talking about a 30+' chimney, it should draft well with a 3" hole in it.

eng 1 line, save that chimney sweeps number. He is an honest man. Many would have sold you a liner you did not need.
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