Do I Have Enough Room to Install a Baro Damper?

Do I Have Enough Room to Install a Baro Damper?

PostBy: caper1175 On: Fri Jan 02, 2009 3:08 pm

Hi all, I'm finally ready to install a Baro Damper on my Viking Boiler but I'm not sure it can be done. As you can see from the pic below the distance between the boiler and the elbow is not very long. Also, the pipe from the boiler to the elbow is an odd shape, it's oval coming off the boiler and round when it connects to the elbow. Do you think it can be done? Suggestions?
Thanks - Jason.
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Re: Do I Have Enough Room to Install a Baro Damper?

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:23 pm

Take the elbow off and put in a TEE with the branch down to the stove. Mount the baro in the end of the TEE. Set the baro with a manometer, available here. Manometer Loaner Program
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Re: Do I Have Enough Room to Install a Baro Damper?

PostBy: Dann757 On: Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:37 pm

Or, you might have just enough room to cut out a hole on the horizontal run and attach a baro with the adapter and metal straps. No disassembly required this way.
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Re: Do I Have Enough Room to Install a Baro Damper?

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:29 pm

Replace elbow with a Tee, bonus is the ability to check the horizontal run for ash and clean as needed.
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Re: Do I Have Enough Room to Install a Baro Damper?

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:42 pm

Do the "Bullhead" installation, replace the elbow with a tee. Make sure you set the draft with a manometer, as Coaledsweat mentioned.
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Re: Do I Have Enough Room to Install a Baro Damper?

PostBy: caper1175 On: Tue Jan 06, 2009 11:43 am

Thanks for the replies.....I'll definitely go with replacing the elbow with a "T" and add the baro damper. Is this something that a DIYer could handle, or should I call in the professionals?
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Re: Do I Have Enough Room to Install a Baro Damper?

PostBy: WNY On: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:12 pm

You can do it!! Just shut the stove off and let it cool down for a while, otherwise you will get CO leaking out when you change the pipe. You may have to cut to fit the other pipe coming out of the stove.

Just make sure you get the correct crimped or non crimped ends in the right direction and you should be able to just unhook the elbow and mount the TEE and add the baro to the end...
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Re: Do I Have Enough Room to Install a Baro Damper?

PostBy: rockwood On: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:27 pm

caper1175, How's the vent with fan by the coal boiler working out, acting like a chimney anymore when you open the boiler door?
Did you run the fresh air duct into the boiler room yet? Did it help?
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Re: Do I Have Enough Room to Install a Baro Damper?

PostBy: caper1175 On: Tue Jan 06, 2009 1:41 pm

rockwood wrote:caper1175, How's the vent with fan by the coal boiler working out, acting like a chimney anymore when you open the boiler door?
Did you run the fresh air duct into the boiler room yet? Did it help?


I rarely use the vent with the fan anymore, even with the new fresh air duct I ran it still seems like it wants to act like a chimney when I have it on. It's probably a little too close to the loading door so at some point I'm going to locate it higher above the boiler. Since I've figured out how to use the stove better I don't have all that much smoke when I open the door anyways.

The fresh air duct did help to keep the room signifigantly cooler when there is a fire on. The room used to get way too hot, so much that it wouldn't register on the thermometer I have in the room which goes up to 35 Celcius. Since I installed the fresh air vent the temerature hasn't gone above 30 celcius.
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Re: Do I Have Enough Room to Install a Baro Damper?

PostBy: rockwood On: Tue Jan 06, 2009 4:06 pm

Good to hear that you have it figured out.
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