Blower DIED !
Just fired this up in mid Oct (new) and all was well till tonite when I notice the blower in the hopper wasn't on
checked the Coaltrol and it was set to 'auto mode' so I moved it to manual and all I got was a hum,the fan doesn't spin freely,once or twice before back in Nov I noticed the fan not running gave it a little nudge and it started running again but not so lucky this time.
So is this a common problem or do you think I just got a bad blower fan? 9 weeks is well short of how long I thought I'd go without a problem!
And to really make things nice is my oil furnace won't fire up either,I think its mad cause I just run it once a week for 5-10 minutes just to keep things moving.... 22 deg outside and no heat ... it's Sunday and Monday is a cold 24 hrs. away till I can call Jerry ... as my buddy sez when something in a stoker breaks or the power goes out it's just a big cold black box.
Has anyone tried an alternative blower setup? It always seemed to me that the hopper would get pretty hot sometimes and I wondered how good that would be over a period of time for the blower motor. 9 weeks ...I'm starting to think I may have to fabricate some tubes on either side of the blower housing and cut two round holes in the side of the hopper box so the motor has cooler air feeding/cooling it.
checked the Coaltrol and it was set to 'auto mode' so I moved it to manual and all I got was a hum,the fan doesn't spin freely,once or twice before back in Nov I noticed the fan not running gave it a little nudge and it started running again but not so lucky this time.
So is this a common problem or do you think I just got a bad blower fan? 9 weeks is well short of how long I thought I'd go without a problem!
And to really make things nice is my oil furnace won't fire up either,I think its mad cause I just run it once a week for 5-10 minutes just to keep things moving.... 22 deg outside and no heat ... it's Sunday and Monday is a cold 24 hrs. away till I can call Jerry ... as my buddy sez when something in a stoker breaks or the power goes out it's just a big cold black box.
Has anyone tried an alternative blower setup? It always seemed to me that the hopper would get pretty hot sometimes and I wondered how good that would be over a period of time for the blower motor. 9 weeks ...I'm starting to think I may have to fabricate some tubes on either side of the blower housing and cut two round holes in the side of the hopper box so the motor has cooler air feeding/cooling it.
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I assume you mean the Combustion Blower? when you say Hopper blower? I don;t get cutting holes in the hopper box OR tube to keep them cool? I wouldn't think you should have to do anything, they have been making these stoves for quite a while and I don't think its a heat problem.
Did you try and plug the blower in directly to an outlet? Make sure it's not the CoalTrol? Normally you can remove with a few bolts, clean it up, oil it, and they normally come back to life.
My hyfire is 4-5 years(I think, bought it used) and haven't replaced the blowers.
Are you getting fines from the stoker unit on the blower? If so, you have to keep the blower cleaned and oiled. I put a piece of metal/cover over the top of mine, to help keep the fines that sometimes get kicked out of the stoker onto the blower.
Get a hold of Jerry at Leisure Line, he can get you one out pretty quick.
Did you try and plug the blower in directly to an outlet? Make sure it's not the CoalTrol? Normally you can remove with a few bolts, clean it up, oil it, and they normally come back to life.
My hyfire is 4-5 years(I think, bought it used) and haven't replaced the blowers.
Are you getting fines from the stoker unit on the blower? If so, you have to keep the blower cleaned and oiled. I put a piece of metal/cover over the top of mine, to help keep the fines that sometimes get kicked out of the stoker onto the blower.
Get a hold of Jerry at Leisure Line, he can get you one out pretty quick.
Well I got the fan running again,moved the shaft back and forth and it lossened up,put a small dab of oil on the end of the shaft.There wasn' really any dirt on anything so I don't know ? I'm still guessing it gets a little bit too hot for it's own good.But after putting everything back together now the control module doesn't go on,replaced the fuse didn't make a difference,so who knows !
On the plus side I got my home furnace up and running about 8am and finnaly got to go to bed for a whole 2-1/2 hours before havind to getting up
I want to thank everyone for their help Thanks! Jim
On the plus side I got my home furnace up and running about 8am and finnaly got to go to bed for a whole 2-1/2 hours before havind to getting up
I want to thank everyone for their help Thanks! Jim
heres the circumstances as posted on the Lesiure Line forum,other than replace the fuse what else can be checked?
Re: Blower DIED !
By: JimC On: Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:28 pm
Well I got the fan running again,moved the shaft back and forth and it lossened up,put a small dab of oil on the end of the shaft.There wasn' really any dirt on anything so I don't know ? I'm still guessing it gets a little bit too hot for it's own good.But after putting everything back together now the control module doesn't go on,replaced the fuse didn't make a difference,so who knows !
On the plus side I got my home furnace up and running about 8am and finnaly got to go to bed for a whole 2-1/2 hours before havind to getting up
I want to thank everyone for their help Thanks! Jim
Re: Blower DIED !
By: JimC On: Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:28 pm
Well I got the fan running again,moved the shaft back and forth and it lossened up,put a small dab of oil on the end of the shaft.There wasn' really any dirt on anything so I don't know ? I'm still guessing it gets a little bit too hot for it's own good.But after putting everything back together now the control module doesn't go on,replaced the fuse didn't make a difference,so who knows !
On the plus side I got my home furnace up and running about 8am and finnaly got to go to bed for a whole 2-1/2 hours before havind to getting up
I want to thank everyone for their help Thanks! Jim
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are you NOT getting ANY power to the module/thermostat?
does the coaltrol Power up?
If You have power, but the Combustion blower is STILL not working...Check the setting of the coaltrol, I think it defaults to IGN - YES (Ignitor), the blower will NOT work until the ignition sequence is done, Change it to NO, that was my problem when I first put the Coaltrol in place on mine, I couldn't figure out why my blower wasn't working either....
does the coaltrol Power up?
If You have power, but the Combustion blower is STILL not working...Check the setting of the coaltrol, I think it defaults to IGN - YES (Ignitor), the blower will NOT work until the ignition sequence is done, Change it to NO, that was my problem when I first put the Coaltrol in place on mine, I couldn't figure out why my blower wasn't working either....
Sounds like the blower shorted. Not sure what is in the control box, but I would unplug suspect blower, change the fuse and
see if it powers up. If it does not, take the control box apart and see if there is an obvious short in there. Needless to say,
I would unplug everything before poking around
see if it powers up. If it does not, take the control box apart and see if there is an obvious short in there. Needless to say,
I would unplug everything before poking around
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If it's under warranty from CoalTrol, Don't take it apart !!! Just get a hold of Neil or Paul @ CoalTrol and send it back to them. They are very good in getting it back to you.
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Do you have a 200* switch and if so is it tripped???
I just noticed this older post with a similar problem. Wonder if there was a fix? I'm having same problemJimC wrote:Just fired this up in mid Oct (new) and all was well till tonite when I notice the blower in the hopper wasn't on
checked the Coaltrol and it was set to 'auto mode' so I moved it to manual and all I got was a hum,the fan doesn't spin freely,once or twice before back in Nov I noticed the fan not running gave it a little nudge and it started running again but not so lucky this time.
So is this a common problem or do you think I just got a bad blower fan? 9 weeks is well short of how long I thought I'd go without a problem!
And to really make things nice is my oil furnace won't fire up either,I think its mad cause I just run it once a week for 5-10 minutes just to keep things moving.... 22 deg outside and no heat ... it's Sunday and Monday is a cold 24 hrs. away till I can call Jerry ... as my buddy sez when something in a stoker breaks or the power goes out it's just a big cold black box.
Has anyone tried an alternative blower setup? It always seemed to me that the hopper would get pretty hot sometimes and I wondered how good that would be over a period of time for the blower motor. 9 weeks ...I'm starting to think I may have to fabricate some tubes on either side of the blower housing and cut two round holes in the side of the hopper box so the motor has cooler air feeding/cooling it.