Blower DIED !

 
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Post by JimC » Sun. Jan. 04, 2009 6:24 am

Just fired this up in mid Oct (new) and all was well till tonite when I notice the blower in the hopper wasn't on :-(
checked the Coaltrol and it was set to 'auto mode' so I moved it to manual and all I got was a hum,the fan doesn't spin freely,once or twice before back in Nov I noticed the fan not running gave it a little nudge and it started running again but not so lucky this time.
So is this a common problem or do you think I just got a bad blower fan? 9 weeks is well short of how long I thought I'd go without a problem!
And to really make things nice is my oil furnace won't fire up either,I think its mad cause I just run it once a week for 5-10 minutes just to keep things moving.... 22 deg outside and no heat ... it's Sunday and Monday is a cold 24 hrs. away till I can call Jerry ... as my buddy sez when something in a stoker breaks or the power goes out it's just a big cold black box.

Has anyone tried an alternative blower setup? It always seemed to me that the hopper would get pretty hot sometimes and I wondered how good that would be over a period of time for the blower motor. 9 weeks :( ...I'm starting to think I may have to fabricate some tubes on either side of the blower housing and cut two round holes in the side of the hopper box so the motor has cooler air feeding/cooling it.


 
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Post by WNY » Sun. Jan. 04, 2009 8:38 am

I assume you mean the Combustion Blower? when you say Hopper blower? I don;t get cutting holes in the hopper box OR tube to keep them cool? I wouldn't think you should have to do anything, they have been making these stoves for quite a while and I don't think its a heat problem.

Did you try and plug the blower in directly to an outlet? Make sure it's not the CoalTrol? Normally you can remove with a few bolts, clean it up, oil it, and they normally come back to life.

My hyfire is 4-5 years(I think, bought it used) and haven't replaced the blowers.

Are you getting fines from the stoker unit on the blower? If so, you have to keep the blower cleaned and oiled. I put a piece of metal/cover over the top of mine, to help keep the fines that sometimes get kicked out of the stoker onto the blower.

Get a hold of Jerry at Leisure Line, he can get you one out pretty quick.

 
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Post by hell fire » Sun. Jan. 04, 2009 9:02 am

you may bring it back to life by taking off 3 small bolts on my pioneer. cleaning cage with tooth brush and lube. I use amsoil hi temp spray syn. grease.
then plug in outlet see if it runs free. may work good luck.

 
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Post by JimC » Sun. Jan. 04, 2009 4:28 pm

Well I got the fan running again,moved the shaft back and forth and it lossened up,put a small dab of oil on the end of the shaft.There wasn' really any dirt on anything so I don't know ? I'm still guessing it gets a little bit too hot for it's own good.But after putting everything back together now the control module doesn't go on,replaced the fuse didn't make a difference,so who knows !
On the plus side I got my home furnace up and running about 8am and finnaly got to go to bed for a whole 2-1/2 hours before havind to getting up :cry:
I want to thank everyone for their help Thanks! Jim

 
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Post by JimC » Sun. Jan. 04, 2009 4:35 pm

heres the circumstances as posted on the Lesiure Line forum,other than replace the fuse what else can be checked?

Re: Blower DIED !
By: JimC On: Sun Jan 04, 2009 4:28 pm

Well I got the fan running again,moved the shaft back and forth and it lossened up,put a small dab of oil on the end of the shaft.There wasn' really any dirt on anything so I don't know ? I'm still guessing it gets a little bit too hot for it's own good.But after putting everything back together now the control module doesn't go on,replaced the fuse didn't make a difference,so who knows !
On the plus side I got my home furnace up and running about 8am and finnaly got to go to bed for a whole 2-1/2 hours before havind to getting up
I want to thank everyone for their help Thanks! Jim

 
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Post by WNY » Sun. Jan. 04, 2009 5:34 pm

are you NOT getting ANY power to the module/thermostat?

does the coaltrol Power up?

If You have power, but the Combustion blower is STILL not working...Check the setting of the coaltrol, I think it defaults to IGN - YES (Ignitor), the blower will NOT work until the ignition sequence is done, Change it to NO, that was my problem when I first put the Coaltrol in place on mine, I couldn't figure out why my blower wasn't working either....

 
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Post by JimC » Sun. Jan. 04, 2009 7:16 pm

No power to the module,no light,changed fuses,I'll buy more fuses tomorrow just to make sure ... both fans work but the control module doesn't .... sux that I got the fan working and now this


 
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Post by WNY » Mon. Jan. 05, 2009 6:41 am

unplug everything and makes sure nothing is blowing the fuse....then see if it works or not.

 
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Post by Paulie » Mon. Jan. 05, 2009 8:04 am

Sounds like the blower shorted. Not sure what is in the control box, but I would unplug suspect blower, change the fuse and
see if it powers up. If it does not, take the control box apart and see if there is an obvious short in there. Needless to say,
I would unplug everything before poking around :shock:

 
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Post by WNY » Mon. Jan. 05, 2009 8:23 am

If it's under warranty from CoalTrol, Don't take it apart !!! Just get a hold of Neil or Paul @ CoalTrol and send it back to them. They are very good in getting it back to you.

 
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Post by morrisfamily3098 » Mon. Jan. 05, 2009 9:26 am

Do you have a 200* switch and if so is it tripped???

 
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Post by hell fire » Mon. Jan. 05, 2009 10:16 am

hi jim problem could be with fuse holder not making contact in socket I had that problem before. take out fuse holder and bend tabs out a little
to make better contact. ned

 
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Post by WNY » Mon. Jan. 05, 2009 10:28 am

I think they mean a Power Vent Flume Switch on the stove? Maybe that tripped if you one.

 
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Post by pvolcko » Wed. Jan. 07, 2009 11:47 am

Jim, please call the shop at 315-299-3589 to arrange for return and repair.

 
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Post by cmperry » Thu. Oct. 08, 2009 7:07 am

JimC wrote:Just fired this up in mid Oct (new) and all was well till tonite when I notice the blower in the hopper wasn't on :-(
checked the Coaltrol and it was set to 'auto mode' so I moved it to manual and all I got was a hum,the fan doesn't spin freely,once or twice before back in Nov I noticed the fan not running gave it a little nudge and it started running again but not so lucky this time.
So is this a common problem or do you think I just got a bad blower fan? 9 weeks is well short of how long I thought I'd go without a problem!
And to really make things nice is my oil furnace won't fire up either,I think its mad cause I just run it once a week for 5-10 minutes just to keep things moving.... 22 deg outside and no heat ... it's Sunday and Monday is a cold 24 hrs. away till I can call Jerry ... as my buddy sez when something in a stoker breaks or the power goes out it's just a big cold black box.

Has anyone tried an alternative blower setup? It always seemed to me that the hopper would get pretty hot sometimes and I wondered how good that would be over a period of time for the blower motor. 9 weeks :( ...I'm starting to think I may have to fabricate some tubes on either side of the blower housing and cut two round holes in the side of the hopper box so the motor has cooler air feeding/cooling it.
I just noticed this older post with a similar problem. Wonder if there was a fix? I'm having same problem


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