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Post by CapeCoaler » Sun. Jan. 04, 2009 9:35 pm

I like the 4x4x5 size because I can roll it around in the basement and clear the support beams with 10" casters. It will hold 2 tons.
I will use 4 pieces of 3/4" pipe to hold the sides together with triangle bracing at the top to keep the corners together.
Thru bolts in the corners and all should stay together.
I have the same issue, chute location and storage are on different ends of the basement.


 
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Post by Scottscoaled » Sun. Jan. 04, 2009 10:29 pm

I would make several smaller bins. They are easier to handle , would cost just about the same, would't have to be so overbuilt, would last longer because they didn't handle so much weight, If you got a bad run of coal you wouldn't have to deal with the whole bunch, and it might give you more room around your basement. :) Scott

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Sun. Jan. 04, 2009 10:32 pm

I agree 4000 lbs is about as much as you want to be tugging/pushing without some assistance from a motor.

 
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Post by coalmeister » Sun. Jan. 04, 2009 10:54 pm

I built a rolling coal bin, it is 3' x 4' x 3' high. The structure weighs about 600#, so total weight loaded, is around 2500# and let me tell you it is a bear to roll around loaded. I just installed a power winch to my garage floor as it is just to much to push comfortably without at least 3 people. Steel wheels would roll easier than rubber.

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Post by tvb » Mon. Jan. 05, 2009 8:24 am

Anyone know if the cloth sided wheeled bins used by the post office (and homeless people) would work okay for rolling around coal? I have no clue how a functional door could be added however.

 
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Post by pret » Mon. Jan. 05, 2009 10:39 am

I built two 4x4x4 bins, they hold about 2 tons of pea coal... I have four heavy duty casters and believe me... it is a bear to push around my garage on a 3% slope. Took me 2 hours and the use of my car to move it where I wanted it. I suggest 3x3x3 - that's what I plan to build this summer!

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Post by Freddy » Mon. Jan. 05, 2009 11:46 am

tvb wrote:cloth sided wheeled bins....would work okay?
I don't believe fabric would work well. I think even if it wear 100 denier Cordura it would rip after a while. Also, if using fabric, the top frame would have to support the entire weight.
CapeCoaler wrote:some assistance from a motor.
Now we're talkin'!


 
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Post by tvb » Mon. Jan. 05, 2009 8:02 pm

FWIW, someone on CL Philly is selling big casters rated at 1700# each for $25 per. Search for coal and it should come up.

 
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Post by coalkirk » Tue. Jan. 06, 2009 8:45 am

Someone in Philly has also listed steel carts that will hold 2000#. $275.00 each
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Post by acesover » Tue. Jan. 06, 2009 8:56 am

Take a LOOK
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Post by gerryjo » Tue. Jan. 06, 2009 9:01 pm

A lot of good ideas here. They make me rethink the whole project.

If I were to build a smaller set of carts - 3'x3'x3' or 4'x4'x3' would there be some utility in having slide in plywood planks on the one end. If so how would you suggest strengthening those end corners where the "door" would be?

 
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Just be careful how you push'em!

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Wed. Jan. 07, 2009 9:09 am

Make it solid, cut a door in one side for a shovel and make it like a dog house for an AA feed tube.
Keep the height so you can climb over the top to get in or be able to lay the sucker on its side!

 
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Post by gerryjo » Wed. Jan. 07, 2009 10:43 am

CapeCoaler wrote:Make it solid, cut a door in one side for a shovel and make it like a dog house for an AA feed tube.
Keep the height so you can climb over the top to get in or be able to lay the sucker on its side!
CC,
I tried searching the threads to see what the doghouse concept might look like. Is there somewhere on the forum you can point to. I imagine you mean to cut a door in the lower half and midway along one side like this.
Cart Door.jpg

Door in cart side.

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I haven't done stuff like this since I left manufacturing - forgot how much I enjoy the puzzles :D .
Thanks
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Post by CapeCoaler » Wed. Jan. 07, 2009 10:59 am

http://www.axeman-anderson.com/pdf/anthratube.pdf
Go to the bottom of the PDF, the 'X' is the outside of the bin.
Doghouse keeps the coal from spilling out without any doors or extensions that would breakoff on a rolling 2 ton bin!


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