Should the USA have Universal Healthcare??

Re: Should the USA have Universal Healthcare??

PostBy: ken On: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:23 pm

Why is it that doctors

call what they do 'practice'? :D
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Re: Should the USA have Universal Health care??

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:34 pm

jeromemsn wrote:I see I'm not very good at getting my point of view across so will try one more time. Since health care is a for profit racket until they change the system to a not for profit system every one looses. It's hard for me to believe that people here really can't see what the problem is. We burn coal because we feel we have beat the system and the Arabs at taking so much of our money for something so basic as heat. Well how much more basic can it be than health care. Why have they made it so difficult to stay alive. The drugs that they make will sell forever unless they find a new drug or until they find that the drugs don't really work. So when you look at forever to make money on a drug seems like they don't need to make it cost so much. I decided a long time ago I was not going to lengthen my life taking a bunch of pills (thats my decision not your decision and so far it has worked for me) so there not going to be making a whole lot of money from me anyway, well Mr. Bayer will, lol. But when I see all the kids that don't get to make a choice I mean really and we say we are better than monkey's lmao.
People at this stage of society should never be to cold or to hot or hungry in my opinion. The world is going to change and as I see it we will not hear of nationalized banks or other companies being nationalized we will hear that they have been globalized. when we went to the "to big to fail" that was just another step. (My own thought here, If you believe there is a supreme being you might want to start a savings plan soon, just think what the going rate is for getting in there, maybe thats why there are two places to go an expensive high rise and a no rent shanty town)


I need an aspirin after reading that.
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Re: Should the USA have Universal Healthcare??

PostBy: BillMarti On: Sun Jan 11, 2009 9:51 pm

You misunderstand frivolous lawsuits what is implied that it not my fault I injured myself doing something stupid and holding anybody responsible such as spilling hot coffee in my lap, somebody getting shot committing a crime suing the gun manufacture and/or person protecting himself including police. I think the lawyer and the perpetrator should be prosecuted that is just wrong any way you look at it. As i ask before who and how will this be corrected without prosecuting those in power.
The patients are running the asylum. The government has already usurped much to much power the mafia is now in the legal business and we put them there.

Bill S.
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Re: Should the USA have Universal Healthcare??

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:09 pm

Black_And_Blue wrote:It's obvious the Social Security Ponzi Scheme isn't big enough, we should start up another one and call it Free Health Care.




Reading through the posts I was thinking the exact same thing . Look how well SS is going .I for sure am not counting on it for retirement.
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Re: Should the USA have Universal Healthcare??

PostBy: jeromemsn On: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:26 pm

:lol: Black and Blue I can sell you a couple if you need them at hospital prices :lol: I mean we all need to make a buck right :lol:

I for one am glad I live a simple life and get a lot of pleasure from very simple things. I sometimes wonder what the people that fear waking up everyday do when they see things go up in price and yet there savings, investments plummet. I thought they went hand in hand.

I watched 60 mins. tonight and now I understand even better what has been going on and I'm glad I can go to sleep tonight and know I'm not a part of it.

Corporate greed has to stop.

People have to be able to live a normal and happy life with no worries of freezing to death or of starving, thought that was what being human meant.

I know that those men on wall street absolutely need to be paid 100 million for a years work, now if I could figure out what kind of work they do.

I know it will not be in my life time that things change for any of this including health care, I just hope it does so our kids and there kids can get health care for a decent price. And if you want things to stay the same well I'm glad you want your kids to be ripped off as much as we have been.
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Re: Should the USA have Universal Healthcare??

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:16 pm

jeromemsn :

If I agreed to purchase your aspirin then there would be a mutual benefit placed on that transaction.

You could be a benevolent soul and gift the aspirin to me, again mutual benefit.

Or a third party (Government) could mandate you pay for all my aspirins, in this case I would benefit and you would suffer.

How should we proceed with this transaction?
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Re: Should the USA have Universal Healthcare??

PostBy: stockingfull On: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:28 pm

Or, like we do with roads and schools and electric lines and water lines, everybody could pay for everybody's aspirin. :whistle:
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Re: Should the USA have Universal Healthcare??

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:53 pm

stockingfull wrote:Or, like we do with roads and schools and electric lines and water lines, everybody could pay for everybody's aspirin. :whistle:


This thread if full of fail.

Your road tax dollars have been so well spent to date, that Mr Obama has proposed another $775 billion to fix the dilapidated infrastructure.

Detroit School Lacks toilet paper and light bulbs : http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28544267/
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Re: Should the USA have Universal Healthcare??

PostBy: hugg On: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:33 am

Not any state that I know of, but maybe. My wife is an RN. Here in Maine you can become an LPN in two years, but an RN is most assuredly a four year program. The two year RN's went out in the 80's.

My wife works part time at a local hospital. Full timers get health insurance, but part timers "get a discount". As of Jan of this year we are paying $10,868 a year for health insurance for the two of us. If not for that one thing, she could retire.

This from freddy.
My wife completed her RN license in two years which is expected from any reputable institution. That is a fact. Look it up.
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Re: Should the USA have Universal Healthcare??

PostBy: hugg On: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:37 am

The heath care :mad: system is a discrace to our country. lets fix it an stop yelling. USA
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Re: Should the USA have Universal Healthcare??

PostBy: ken On: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:15 am

"Not any state that I know of, but maybe. My wife is an RN. Here in Maine you can become an LPN in two years, but an RN is most assuredly a four year program" Same in Ohio. Girl I know is in her last of 4 years , full time student , to be a RN. I think alot of this year is hands on in some hospitals , but no pay.
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Re: Should the USA have Universal Healthcare??

PostBy: hugg On: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:37 am

Most RN programs are supposed to be completed in 2 years. There is a 4 year program, but that is designed for those who want to get into the administrational part of the scam. Mostly learning the buisiness end of the healthcare system.
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Re: Should the USA have Universal Healthcare??

PostBy: jeromemsn On: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:21 am

There is one good thing about what is happening. There will come a time when insurance will have to charge so much to support it's self that it will implode. People will say hey for this kind of money a bunch of us could get together start our own company charge less and even get more people involved and so on until no more insurance company. my wife has to pay $386.00 a month right now for her cobra. Besides why have a middle man for insurance why not just give the money to the hospital every month. What does the insurance company do they take your money and pay the doc or hospital or the deny the claim well seems like we can just pay the hospital and the docs and take a big expense out of the equation. If it works with a middle man it can work just as well without and cheaper too. Just think we could start the coal burners cooperative.
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Re: Should the USA have Universal Healthcare??

PostBy: Black_And_Blue On: Mon Jan 12, 2009 9:18 am

hugg wrote:The heath care :mad: system is a discrace to our country. lets fix it an stop yelling. USA


That's right Comrade!

From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
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Re: Should the USA have Universal Healthcare??

PostBy: stockingfull On: Mon Jan 12, 2009 11:50 am

Black_And_Blue wrote:From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.



WWJD, right? 8-)
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