How much extra electricity vs. oil?

How much extra electricity vs. oil?

PostBy: Complete Heat On: Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:47 pm

Has anyone kept track of how much more electricity is used by a DF-520 over a conventional oil burner?

Mike
Complete Heat
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Axeman-Anderson
Stove/Furnace Model: AA-130/FHA

Re: How much extra electricity vs. oil?

PostBy: Pa Dealer On: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:40 pm

Complete Heat wrote:Has anyone kept track of how much more electricity is used by a DF-520 over a conventional oil burner?

Mike



Since some oil burners use constant ignition transformers i'd have to guess they would use more.

R.Y
Pa Dealer
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 DF
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM DF 520
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker

Re: How much extra electricity vs. oil?

PostBy: billw On: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:24 pm

My electric bill is up about 15.00 a month since October when I first started running my 520 but I can't say that is all because of the 520. I did notice my coal unit runs longer than my oil unit did but my house is kept at a higher temp now. Even if all of the 15.00 a month increase is attributed to the coal unit I'm happy and saving a ton of money on oil.
billw
 
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM 520
Stove/Furnace Model: GOODBYE OIL COMPANY

Re: How much extra electricity vs. oil?

PostBy: e.alleg On: Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:33 pm

My forced air blower sucks the zap juice pretty good so I can't comment on just the stoker, in the summer it's not a noticeable difference and I use the 520 for my hot water. It's only got a 1/8hp motor so it can't cost that much.
e.alleg
 
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: 520

Re: How much extra electricity vs. oil?

PostBy: Complete Heat On: Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:11 pm

I have a customer who has been running the unit for a couple of weeks now, and he is not too happy with the EFM 520. His reasons are that he is burning 4 bags a day, and he said his electric bill has gone up 50%. It is a FHW system, with one circulator, and 4 zone valves. The house is about 20 years old and 4,000 sq. ft. I think his coal consumption is high, the electricity usage I would have to see it to believe it. I would like to get his numbers to where they make sense.

Mike
Complete Heat
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Axeman-Anderson
Stove/Furnace Model: AA-130/FHA

Re: How much extra electricity vs. oil?

PostBy: stoker-man On: Tue Jan 13, 2009 11:26 pm

I think he needs to give more information about his 520. Such as: What are his settings. What draft measurements does he have. Was oil costing him $5 a day and he expected coal to cost 5¢ a day. Questions like that.
stoker-man
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: 1981 efm wcb-24 in use 365 days a year
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Chestnut
Other Heating: Hearthstone wood stove

Re: How much extra electricity vs. oil?

PostBy: lincolnmania On: Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:47 am

our electric bill jumps the avg of 50 a month in the winter time........more than one appliance causing it tho......the efm, the alaska, we run the heat plenum on the dead oil furnace in the house (the kenmore is next to the cold air return) and 2 ceiling fans in the shop and two of those ceramic electric heaters in the cold bedrooms
lincolnmania
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: efm af-150 1982
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: alaska kodiak stoker 1986
Hand Fed Coal Stove: warm morning 1980 kenmore

Re: How much extra electricity vs. oil?

PostBy: tvb On: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:00 am

OUtr electric went about $25/mo for the stoker, and a humidifier + ceiling fans.
tvb
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Channing III

Re: How much extra electricity vs. oil?

PostBy: Mark (PA) On: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:41 pm

Very happy to post here.

My electric bill has gone DOWN $30 to $40 per month.

I have an electric water heater and that DHW coil is a life saver.

I also was used to running a corn burner which uses more electric than the 520 motor + water pumps so all and all I am very happy.

My bills used to run right around $100 per month in the winter. $70 in the summer.

now I am going about $65 _$70 per month in the winter. i'll take it...
Mark (PA)
 
Stove/Furnace Make: 1953 EFM SF-520 High Boy
Stove/Furnace Model: Fitzgibbon Boiler

Re: How much extra electricity vs. oil?

PostBy: e.alleg On: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:57 pm

Lest we not forget, in the winter it is dark more than it is light and we spend more time indoors so we use more energy regardless of the heater. To make matters worse I'm on the adjustable rate plan so it's hard to compare without doing some math. I'll bet my Christmas lights used more juice than the EFM. ;)
e.alleg
 
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: 520

Re: How much extra electricity vs. oil?

PostBy: ray in ma On: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:15 pm

Our electric bill for December was $100 less than November :dancing:
Of course we lost power for 5 days during the ice storm and the wife is now using the coal fired clothes dryer instead of the electric one :secret: (Huge difference) I am also running up to 7 fans in the house but my stove is hand fired.

If we have power for a full month I estimate we will save about $50 not using the dryer even using the fans, this was not a savings I calculated when deciding to go coal but should reduce the payback period even more :punk:
ray in ma
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Kodiak

Re: How much extra electricity vs. oil?

PostBy: Paulie On: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:47 pm

Running a LL stoker plus a duct booster, $25./month extra.
Paulie
 
Stove/Furnace Make: leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Pioneer

Re: How much extra electricity vs. oil?

PostBy: Kenbod On: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:50 am

I've got a Keystoker K-2 Boiler. Between the combustion fan and the stoker (even if running continuously), they would only draw about 1 amp @120v. Somewhere around 120w, 2.9kwh/day, 86kwh/mo. In Syracuse @$0.14/kwh, we're talking $12/mo, fans and humidifiers a bit more. Small change here.
Kenbod
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Van Wert Simplex Multitherm
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker Kaa-2

Re: How much extra electricity vs. oil?

PostBy: stoker-man On: Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:19 am

the wife is now using the coal fired clothes dryer


What is that???

Our electric bill dropped $30 a month when our last child got his own house and it has remained fairly steady at $65-70 a month. I'm running two circulators pretty much all the time.
stoker-man
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: 1981 efm wcb-24 in use 365 days a year
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Chestnut
Other Heating: Hearthstone wood stove

Re: How much extra electricity vs. oil?

PostBy: ray in ma On: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:14 am

stoker-man wrote:
the wife is now using the coal fired clothes dryer


What is that???



A wonderful marvel of Yankee ingenuity and basic engineering.
I wrapped a clothesline around some of the lolly columns in the cellar.

She also uses a wooden rack for some of the smaller unmentionables :up:
ray in ma
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Kodiak