Coal safety!

Re: Coal safety!

PostBy: SAM0509 On: Sat Feb 14, 2009 12:00 am

IMG_1892, IMG_1893, IMG_1894, IMG_1895, IMG_1896, IMG_1897 Here are some pics of my stove, the brick that is breaking off and inside of the stove.i spoke with the people that have serviced it before and they told me to just simply go to any fireplace shop and get new refractory brick.I spoke with someone there and they asked what size I needed. I said ????? he then asked about the stove I told him that it was a Godin coal and wood stove (although I found burning wood brought the stack temp way too high) anyway i also told him I thought it was at least 10 years old and was oval shaped.He then proceeded to tell me that he did not think that that style of brick was made anymore because it had to be curved.He told me he had not seen this in about 20 years.This troubled me because the person I have service it said it was a simple job no troubles.After being at the stove shop I'm not thinking so. They also felt the need to show me the new style of coal stoves of course, but this makes me wonder if he just wanted me to just buy new instead of helping me repair it.If anyone knows anything about this style of brick or other proper and safe way to fix this I would greatly appreciate it because I have been using gas now for 3 days straight, thats the most I have ever had to before.
SAM0509
 
Stove/Furnace Make: GODIN

Re: Coal safety!

PostBy: Freddy On: Sat Feb 14, 2009 6:22 am

Ohhhh, the pictures didn't make the trip. Did you click "add the file" after each pic?

The brick are commonly called stove brick, or half brick. I think the salesman may be right, the curved ones are a thing of the past. Buy a $8 diamond blade for a skill saw & , with care, you'll be able to cut angles on the sides of the brick and make them fit. You'll also fill the entire county with dust so do it outside & wear a decent mask.
I saw some at a local hardware store for $5 each, but the brickyard has them for $2.
Freddy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined

Re: Coal safety!

PostBy: Halleys5 On: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:05 pm

I'm hoping that there is some help out there for me...

I'm a coal newbie, bought a 12+ year old Alaska Channing 2, in good shape. Cleaned up nice all blowers seem to work well, bored out the combustion air holes, built a tile pedestal to set it on, and I'm ready to go.

But now for the flue, I need(want) to buy an outside negative pressure direct vent (for safety) but the ones I've looked at say I should be getting a 3" or 4" based on my BTUs, my top vent Channing is 6". Does a guy just neck it down??? And I guess I need an additional air damper somewhere inside but how do I set it? How do I adjust the direct vent so it's not just over-cranking the combustion fan and making the stoker run faster than it should?
Wish I had a real flue set up, but I don't. Gotta go horizontal out the wall.

Can anyone help with some "how-to" links or something step by step?
I am only going straight up from the stove about 2', then a 90, then another 16" to the exterior wall.

Also if anyone has a scan of a manual for a Channing 2, I would REALLY appreciate that.
Thanks for ANY help!
-Carter
Halleys5
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Reading Juanita
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Channing II


Re: Coal safety!

PostBy: Halleys5 On: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:15 pm

PS Is anyone willing to recommend an outdoor power vent model and indoor damper model, I would appreciate it!!
Halleys5
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Reading Juanita
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: Channing II

Re: Coal safety!

PostBy: ratdog On: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:23 pm

Wow there are some nice people on this forum!!!! I have been reading about a barro on my new harmo. I dont have one? The stove burns hot and fast and what little I have burned it it could be burning to fast. Anyway by reading the specs on one on this sight i dont have the space? I have vented my stove in my masonary chimney with six inch stanless flex.the stove has a 17 inch pipe out the back into a tee and up the masonary fireplce it goes. I am getting a little scared after reading some of the post. Anyone in the odenton MD area?
ratdog
 
Stove/Furnace Make: harmon mark 2
Stove/Furnace Model: harmon mark 2

Re: Coal safety!

PostBy: wlape3 On: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:02 pm

Halleys5 wrote:PS Is anyone willing to recommend an outdoor power vent model and indoor damper model, I would appreciate it!!


I use an Alaska power vent myself. Think it was $500 two years ago. It is all stainless steel and comes with an internal damper. It works well with my Alaska furnace.
wlape3
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Alaska
Stove/Furnace Model: 140 auger, forced hot air

Re: Coal safety!

PostBy: grumpy On: Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:18 am

Wood'nCoal wrote:
I always keep a barrel of sand around so if I ever need to put a deep bed coal fire out quick


I have a 50 lb. bag of Sodium Bicarbonate.



Where does one get a 50 Lb bag of Sodium Bicarbonate?
grumpy
 

Re: Coal safety!

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:17 am

grumpy wrote:Where does one get a 50 Lb bag of Sodium Bicarbonate?


II never did find a 50 lb bag of baking soda but I got a 10 lb bag at Costco. Personally, I think 50 lbs for my Harmon Hand fired stove would be over kill; 10 lbs and cutting the air off should do it for me. I think you could probably find the larger bags on the internet. Fire fighting professionals apparently use them to put out chimney fires by dropping them down the chimney. Just do a search on fire safety equipment or the like, hopefully, something will pop up. Good luck, Lisa
lowfog01
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Mark II & Mark I
Coal Size/Type: nut/pea

Re: Coal safety!

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:55 pm

grumpy wrote:
Wood'nCoal wrote:
I always keep a barrel of sand around so if I ever need to put a deep bed coal fire out quick


I have a 50 lb. bag of Sodium Bicarbonate.



Where does one get a 50 Lb bag of Sodium Bicarbonate?


Swimming pool supply, used to adjust the PH in pool water.
Wood'nCoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: 1959 EFM 350
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Magnafire Mark I
Coal Size/Type: Rice and Chestnut
Other Heating: Fisher Fireplace Insert

Re: Coal safety!

PostBy: 70marlin On: Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:49 pm

Annually an ABC fire extinguisher, you need to invert the unit and fluff the dry chemical, the reason is the dry chemical will compact; if the unit is discharged you will only get compress gas out of the unit, not the powder. I gently tap the inverted unit with a rubber dead blow hammer to fluff it up. The safety pin needs to be pulled then reinstalled with a new anti-tamper seal. Every six years it needs to be re-charged and certified. Then every twelve years the unit needs to be hydro tested and recharged and certified. Also you need to size the extinguisher to the load you’re trying to put out. I feel the 1lbs bags of Sodium Bicarbonate is a must for every stove. I think I’d have some in the basement and on the main floor for a chimney fire. (Remember most of us aren’t firemen; let the pro’s do what there trained for!)
70marlin
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: SF 1500A

Re: Coal safety!

PostBy: ValterBorges On: Thu Oct 20, 2011 7:42 pm

ValterBorges
 
Stove/Furnace Make: AHS
Stove/Furnace Model: S260

Re: Coal safety!

PostBy: rickv0315 On: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:02 pm

Are there any special requirements for chimneys for coal stoves? Or can I hook up my coal stove(when I get one) to my existing wood stove pipe/chimney?
rickv0315
 

Re: Coal safety!

PostBy: Dennis On: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:13 pm

rickv,
yes you can. Clean the chimney from cresote and dirt and hook it up. Depending upon your stove you may need a baro damper or a MPD and a manometer is good to adjust your draft and make sure that you have enough draft.Just ask questions if needed,everyone here is willing to help.
Dennis
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: AHS/WOC55-multi-fuel/wood,oil,coal
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/stove size

Re: Coal safety!

PostBy: titleist1 On: Fri Jan 13, 2012 6:22 pm

Make sure the size of the flue pipe that you have in place matches with the size the coal stove requires. Other than that, as long as it is clean and has no obstructions, it should work as long as the draft is adequate. Coal exhaust is usually much cooler than wood exhaust so a marginal draft that worked for wood may not work as well with a coal stove.
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Coal safety!

PostBy: ValterBorges On: Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:21 pm

Halleys5 wrote:PS Is anyone willing to recommend an outdoor power vent model and indoor damper model, I would appreciate it!!


Tjernlund Sideshot.
ValterBorges
 
Stove/Furnace Make: AHS
Stove/Furnace Model: S260