ken wrote:The so called "presidianl line" of embryonic stem cells bush had aboved for study were all contaminated and were pretty much usless. bush stop any new line of embryonic stem cell reasearch with fed money. Plenty of places were doing ESC with their own money like Geron. Now the FDA had a hold on clinical tials using ESC because of bushs stupidy and not caring about his fellow man. He's gone thank God and the ban has been lifed. Geron's study was put on hold for over a year because the FDA had the ban.
The article clearly stated that 20 or so lines were still usable and indeed they were used as part of the research this article described. There were many more than 20 that were authorized but only 20 or so were viable, again according to the article. And again, there are plenty of embryos for producing new stem cells out there that can be had for privately funded research. Stem cell line availability was not a hindrance here. Lack of federal funding might have been, but frankly, and I say this with no ill will toward those who see hope in this particularly type of research; I don't care. There are plenty of private sources of medical R&D funding, there are plenty of state funding sources, plenty of funding sources in/from other countries. They only managed to scrape up $40mil for this effort. In an industry worth billions, if not trillions, I think that is a pretty damning indictment of the perceived practical potential of this effort.
I hope I'm wrong and that this study and research leads to something great. I hope Geron and its investors make truck loads of money off of it. But I am fine with no federal money being spent on it and do not consider it an injustice or some kind of evil that there wasn't federal money available for this effort. And indeed, since approved stem cell lines were used here, it potentially could have accepted some federal funding. My guess is they didn't limit to just those lines which is why they didn't take fed funding.
That said, I would like to see rule changes that allow waste embyos from IVF to be used in federally funded research. I think it is important that there is no financial reward for either the egg/sperm donor nor for the clinic/facility doing the IVF. The donors must be afforded the option to decide if their waste embyos can be used for this kind of research and the choice should only be offered when they choose to discard any remaining embyos, not early in the process. If possible a system should be setup whereby a clinic doesn't know where research embryos are going and research facilities do not know where they came from. Donor information attached to the embyos should be as anonymized as possible. All this to make sure no financial or "status" incentive forms which might result in unnecessary extra embryos being created for the purpose of research.
Use of remains from abortion is more ethically and morally dubious. It is bad enough federal money is used to fund abortions and abortion providers, such as Planned Parenthood, to compound that by federally funding use of the remains... Have to put more thought into that one.
Also, I saw nothing in the article about the FDA blocking anything on this and don't recall hearing about such a block on ESC studies or treatments, only that review and approval took longer than normal due to the novel nature of the proposed study. Can you provide a source to back up that accusation?