Quartz Infared Portable Heater?

Quartz Infared Portable Heater?

PostBy: rockwood On: Sun Jan 25, 2009 8:44 pm

Has anyone seen one of these? Are they any good?
http://www.edenpureheater.com/
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Re: Quartz Infared Portable Heater?

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:02 pm

From your link.
"It does not get hot, cannot start a fire and will not reduce humidity or oxygen. Also, the EdenPURE™ GEN3 Heater does not put any type of fumes, like poisonous carbon monoxide, or any type of harmful radiation into the rooms of your home."

It also won't heat your home, just you if you sit in front of it, Wander off and you better be dressed for it if you plan on saving 50% on your heating bills. :D
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Re: Quartz Infared Portable Heater?

PostBy: WNY On: Mon Jan 26, 2009 8:46 am

Seems pricey for what you get, and like he said, only heats where you are. You can probably get a good oil filled or similar quartz heater at WalMart for under $100.
We have the little radiator style oil filled heaters for like $40, they work good for the price. Thermostat controlled, etc...

The EdenPURE GEN3 Model 500 Heater: $297.00.

The EdenPURE GEN3 Model 1000 Heater: $397.00.
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Re: Quartz Infared Portable Heater?

PostBy: europachris On: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:29 am

These heaters are the same steaming pant load of excrement that those Amish "fireplaces" are. There's nothing "wrong" with them, but they are sold like they are the next Great Coming to Mankind. There are a few other heaters that are similar, and all $$$.

But, there is no denying the Laws of Physics and more importantly, Ohm's Law. There are only a few ways to get heat from electricity alone - a heat pump and resistance. There are others such as the Peltier Effect, but that's another topic.

Since the Eden Pure and others are not heat pumps, they use resistance. Electric resistance heat is goverened by Ohm's Law --> V=I*R and similarly W=V*I or W=I^2*R where V is voltage, I is current, R is resistance, and W is watts. In non-electrical terms, you are only going to get a certain amount of BTUs out of a certain amount of electrical watts when using electric resistance heat. There are no "magic" tricks or materials to change this fact. A $10 Wal-Mart heater will do the exact same job as a $300 or $400 Eden Pure heater.
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Re: Quartz Infared Portable Heater?

PostBy: WNY On: Mon Jan 26, 2009 11:36 am

You are correct. Resistance is resistance. It will draw approx. 5-15 Amps (depending on the load), that will definitely raise your ELECTRIC bill if you use it a lot. Yes, it may reduce your HEATING bill (gas, propane, etc), but you will have to pay for it some how. :(

Here;s the old thread on the Amish Heaters, while on the subject

Heat Surge - Amish made heater saves money?
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Re: Quartz Infared Portable Heater?

PostBy: wnyjim On: Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:31 pm

I know a guy who bought a similar heater. I can't remember the exact name....Sun something. Anyway he claims it cut his heat bill and only raised his electric bill about $30.00 a month. He heats one room with it and its small. I am still a skeptic. I read over the specs on Eden pure the 1000 model seems to be the one to get if your going to. Says it draws 12.5amps and 1483watts on full power the average outlet in a home can handle about 15A to 20A depending on the wiring.
12.5A is alot in my opinion. Same amount as a high powered hairdryer. I guess it would depend on how long it ran in a day. 10% 20% 30% more than that I would think. Seems to me when the Advertisement is sketchy on the details I dont trust the product. We all want to save money #1 all other benifits come after. I hope a few people here buy some and report their findings.

Bose audio equipment is advertised simirliary and also has alot of hype and is considered a quality product. Until you try to find the actual performance specs on it that is.

I thought about one of these heaters to suppliment my coal furnace and smooth out any temperature swings but I'm too skeptic to risk that kind of money without more solid information than thay provide.
60 day warranty also makes me wonder.
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