jotul 507

jotul 507

PostBy: ehamilton On: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:45 pm

On the jotul 507 on the top door- is the circular thing suppose to open- is that a second draft? When people say they have it on 1 or 2 1/2 what are they talking about? Thanks EH
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Stove/Furnace Make: 507 jotul

Re: jotul 507

PostBy: the snowman On: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:29 pm

ehamilton:

Welcome. The top circular thing which is a draft regulator is suppose to be open to create a secondary burn of the gases being released by the coal. If you look at the circular disk it has raised edges that you can get a grip on. I use this to know how many turns open or closed the regulator is. I run my draft regulator one and a half turns open. Some like it two and some like it less. For me, I found that one and a half is enough to initiate the secondary burn yet low enough to keep a good draft up through the coal. In the manual it says the Jotul can be fired up to a temp of 932 F. I measure the temp of the stove on the top door. I have been running my Jotul 507 at a temp of 850 F 24/7 for the past couple weeks with no harm to the unit. One word of advice; Don't load your coal higher than the brick. If you load it higher DO NOT let the coal touch the cast pieces above the brick. you will easily burn through these pieces and expose the cast housing to the high temps which will damage the unit. Post some pics of your unit. We like to see pics. There are pics of my green Jotul 507 on this forum. Do a search for the Jotul on this forum and you will find the pics as well as a lot of threads about it. I found that my Jotul likes a draft of .06 measured with a manometer. If you have any questions feel free to pm me or post them on the forum. There are a few of us on this forum that burn 507's. They are a great unit. Place a fan behind the stove and this will increase the heating capacity of the unit. I am currently heating 1060 sq. ft. at a temp of 72 F with my unit. This is the only thing I use to heat my house. Don't be afraid to ask any question about burning your 507; I'm sure one of use that burn the 507 would have encountered your problem and have good sound advice for you. The members that burn 507's have a wealth of knowledge and experience with the 507 and are willing to share.

the snowman.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Jotul 507
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Re: jotul 507

PostBy: ehamilton On: Tue Jan 27, 2009 10:23 pm

Thank you sooo much.. I thought that should open- I have had this stove for 20yrs. I can't believe Jotul discontinued it. i have replaced the liners and grate. This stove was used in my winterized cottage, with a wood stove in the basement to heat the cottage- 1,000 sq. ft( very small upstairs). It was wonderful. Then we put in a cheap furnace and the cottage has been used in the winter off and on for 20yrs. the furnace went this fall when my cousin, 32yrs old with two girls started staying there. put in a monitor but she (has experience) with coal stoves has been trying to use the coal due to it being cheaper but it just doesn't seem to heat like I remember. I worked with that top draft as I thought that it should open. I will put the w-D 40 to it to get it open. why does the fan help? How much is coal in your area. here in Maine it is $9. for a 50lb bag. thanks for the info. my jotul is red. I am going up to the cottage for a ladies weekend and I will get a picture of my little treasure. Thank you again. EH
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Re: jotul 507

PostBy: the snowman On: Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:31 am

ehamilton:

You have one of the nice red ones. Sometime I want to pick up a red one. I have two green ones. The one I currently use in the house and another I picked up this year that needs to be restored. The fan blows cool air around the surface of the stove helping dissipate the heat from the surface of the stove into the room. If you do not have a magnetic temp guage, pick one up and place it on the top door. This is where the temp of the stove should be taken due to the fact that it does not have any protection behind it like brick or thick cast. I found that my Jotul did not put out much heat until I ran it up past 600 F. When the stove reaches a temp of 750-850 F is where it really puts out the heat. I have never pushed my Jotul past 875 F. You will notice a large difference in heating capacity if you place a fan behind the stove and have the fan angled slightly upward. As for the price of coal I purchase my coal from a couple of places and found the price to range from 7-7.50 per 40 pound bag for Blaschak. I just found a dealer that sells Blaschak bulk for a price of $250.00 per ton. I did find some Kimmels in 50lb bag at a price of 7.00. I haven't had a chance to go back to that place and purchase more stove size coal. I mix stove size coal and nut coal. I get a longer hotter burn with this combo. I live on the Tug Hill located in Northern NY. I look forward to some pics of your nice red Jotul. A guy on ebay had two new never been fired Jotul stoves. One was red and the other was green. I didn't know about the sale until it was over. I would have purchased the red unit. Next year I will restore the other Jotul and install it in the house and run two units. Some of the Jotul stoves that still exist in Europe are works of art. I have seen a couple on the net and wish it wasn't so expensive to transport one back here. I would love to add one of them to my collection I am starting. Anyway, if you have any questions just ask. I hope you get your treasure fired up this weekend.

The snowman
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Jotul 507
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Re: jotul 507

PostBy: Mango678 On: Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:24 pm

Snowman have you found a source of parts for the 507?
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Stove/Furnace Make: Jotul
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Re: jotul 507

PostBy: the snowman On: Fri Dec 07, 2012 10:45 pm

There are still a couple places that have some part available, however, parts are getting more hard to find. The major parts such as tops, sides, doors are no longer available. I have two stoves just for parts for my other three. I'm always on the hunt for that elusive 507 that is new never been fired. The stoves are tough and if you take care of them they will last forever. The fire brick you can use castable cement to make your own monolithic brick and if you don't over fire the stove the other parts seem to last almost forever. It truly is a shame they stopped making the 507. I don't recall what places still have parts available, however, if you need something I can look for that info or someone on the forum will post it. Somewhere I still have a complete list of parts and part numbers for one of the stove places. I would have to look to find it if needed. I have two green and one red 507 and will never part with any of them. The two part stoves are green. I should have a red parts stove as well. Something for me to hunt for.

The snowman.
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Re: jotul 507

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:05 am

I''m typing this besides my beautiful 507 and it's all thanks to you snowman (and others). I read about your raves about these stoves so I too searched and found a never been fired 507 on Ebay this summer. $630 very painful dollars later it was in my back seat. The seller was obviously really astounded that a piece of his late fathers junk collection fetched so much. The only reason I bid so high was the snowmans posts ringing in my ears. My policy is - search for experts (the hard part these days where everyone is an expert), find out what they do and why they do it and copy don't invent. Now I know why. So if you are buying a coal stove and you don't find multiple raves on this board about it - move on. You may have found a rare jewel everyone missed but the odds are not in your favor. Copy - don't invent.

So, search for that Jotul and if you find - don't scrimp - buy. The capital cost of the stove is nothing compared to the comfort and savings.
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Re: jotul 507

PostBy: coalkirk On: Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:19 am

A brand new never fired jotul 507 is virtually unheard of. As I told you before, you probably got the last one in the country, no joke. You can still find them in pretty good conditon. You've got to be careful though cause parts are now hard to find and pricey. Here's the best place I have found. I bought a couple of grates from them last year.
http://www.woodmanspartsplus.com/68/cat ... rence.html
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Re: jotul 507

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:06 am

Jotul says this stove is good for 932F, however, if you want to the stove to last top out at 700F and that is the exceptional day not the usual. So my credo is 600F at max, then there will be a 700F day once in a while. Never let a piece of coal touch the steel plates. You can't live with that one? Buy a bigger great stove - there are plenty. Do I know why - nope - just copying snowman again. I'll probably find out later as I don't have to bother with warpings of irreplaceable parts. Copy don't invent.
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Re: jotul 507

PostBy: the snowman On: Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:17 pm

I agree with coalkirk, the link he has listed is probably the best place to try to find parts for the 507. On this forum there are a number of coal burners who have experience with burning the 507. Just another testament to the quality, craftsmanship, ease of burning and the list goes on and on. Thank you to those of you who have written kind words towards my two cents I have given concerning the 507. I can go on for ever when talking about the Jotul or coal.

The 507 really can take a physical beating. I have seen a green 507b with most of the enamel chipped off, discoloration from being burned too hot and junk piled up around the burning stove. The fact the stove was still able to be burned was a testament to the build of the unit. I looked inside the stove and was surprised to see it had new brick and cast plates installed the year before and the stove inside looked great.

A couple years ago I contacted the company in Europe who made the brick for Jotul. I asked them if they had any brick lying around. The company rep I spoke with said, no, however, he did say they still had the cast and would be willing to make me new brick. The question was how many brick did I want at what price. He did give me a price,however, I forget what it was and where I put the quote. I never tried hunting down the company who produced the cast inserts. I'm sure they still have the cast and would make the inserts for a price.

The snowman
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Re: jotul 507

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:06 pm

So we take all the individual parts and get them foundry copied selling all the individual parts only that way no govt involvement. You just have to assemble the parts yourself. Now where can we get the enameling done. I wonder if Jotul would even grant a license. Oh well enough dreaming for one day. Even better a 505 replica.
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Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

I love my Jotul 507

PostBy: Bob H On: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:19 pm

I've bought a Jotul 507 new in 1980. I mostly burned coke in and it's was unbelievable. The heat that radiated from the coke fire alone kept a 2 story house toasty as as long as the outside temp was above around 20 degrees. Below 20 the oil furnace would kick in but oil consumption when the coke was burning was minimal. I also had a Right Way wood stove in the basement, shrouded and tied into the cold air return) I would fire up to keep the oil furnace from starting.

After the initial fire up and the coke was burning and desired drafts were set the stove burnt so efficiently that you could actually hold your hand on the flew pipe. The stove it's self was way to hot to touch and you could be on the other side of the room and feel the heat radiate(15-18 feet away). There were ceiling fans in most rooms in the house, 2 on the living room, where the stove was, and 1 in the kitchen. The dining room did not have a fan but the circulation kept it just fine. The stairs going up went to a foyer on the second floor and ceiling fans in the 4 bedrooms kept the entire second floor comfortable. Sometimes we would have to open a window.

The coke burned so clean just an orange glow and a blue flame flickering across the top and smokeless. The best size coke chunks to start with were around baseball size. I would pack the firebox with paper. On top of the paper I would add wood. I would cut my kindling wood in 4 in lengths and split it up in finger size pieces. I would put these pieces in on top of the paper vertically, one layer, then fill the stove to the top with coke. Then close the ash pan and top doors. With the firebox door open light the paper. The paper would burn catching the wood on fire the wood would burn starting the coke as it burned the coke would fall down to the brick lined fire box. Adjust the draft and sit back and enjoy the heat.

In the morning just adding a few small chunks of wood to the fire before putting on more coke and you were back in business. If you didn't add the wood and just put on the coke the fire would die. When the coke went out it would be cool enough to handle in just minutes. It was bit amazing that it could be so hot one minute as go cold that fast. When this happened it was back to square one. Clean out the stove and start over.

I always kept the ash pan cleaned out and the ash never built up to the grates. I burned this stove for 10 years and the grate and brick, except for 1 cracked brick, are still in like new condition.

I also kept a large teapot on top of the stove to keep the humidity in the house. There was always hot water for tea.
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Re: jotul 507

PostBy: coalkirk On: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:25 pm

Hi Bob. Curious where you are located. Coke other than the illegal kind and the soft drink kind is not common in my area. Also a pic of your Jotul 507 would be nice if you can. Thanks.
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Re: jotul 507

PostBy: Bob H On: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:31 pm

Hi, I'm in the Cleveland Oh. area.
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Re: jotul 507

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:31 pm

Welcome to the JFC (Jotul Fan Club). Just finishing off my first winter and yes it's an awesome stove. My thanks to the snowman for holding my hand. I have come to prefer stove sized coal.
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