Cost of Chimney Install (Stainless 6 Inch)

 
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Post by crunch » Thu. Jan. 29, 2009 9:18 pm

Hello all I am new ot the forum and have been hanging out in the shadows reading and learning. I have learned so much in the last few weeks and I appreciate eveyones knowledge. I have decided to add a coal stove to our house to cut back on energy costs, we are all electric.
Here is my question. I contacted a chimney service to give me an estimate to find out how much it would cost for them to install a stainless chimney for the coal stove I am looking at. It is a 6inch pipe that will be in our sunroom so ther is no attic to go through. I was quoted $3,000. This semed awfully high to cut a hole in my roof and fill it with a pipe, but since I have no past expereince I am relying for some feedback here. Thanks.


 
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Post by tsb » Thu. Jan. 29, 2009 9:22 pm

If you get a stoker, you could power vent it through the wall.
No chimney needed. Check out Leisure Line for a choice of stokers.

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Post by CapeCoaler » Thu. Jan. 29, 2009 10:36 pm

Height of chimney.
Through the wall or straight up.
More info needed.

 
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Post by LsFarm » Fri. Jan. 30, 2009 4:49 pm

I would also consider a masonry chimney.. get several quotes from masons/bricklayers.. The materials are not that expensive, and if you find a mason who is suffering from the housing slowdown, he may be glad to build you a chimney for a reasonable price.

A masonry chimney will last several lifetimes, a SS chimney may need repair or replacement after 10 years or so,, depends on type of SS and cleaning etc.

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Post by KLook » Fri. Jan. 30, 2009 4:58 pm

I think $3000 Is outrageous. Unless it is 40 ft. tall and on the side of a mountain or such.I would say the contractor just doubled the material cost to come up with the labor. Of course, if he is paying Workman's Comp and Liability Ins. on a crew it does affect things. I would have them put the roof kit in and hang the rest of the pipe yourself if you can't do the whole job yourself. The Selkirk Metalbestos just twists together and you put a locking collar on it. Simple.

 
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Post by Freddy » Fri. Jan. 30, 2009 5:02 pm

Three grand? Seems way high to me too. You could buy the tools needed & do it yourself for that and have $2,000 left over!

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Fri. Jan. 30, 2009 5:10 pm

How tall?
SS chimney runs $65/ft plus labor.


 
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Post by KLook » Fri. Jan. 30, 2009 5:31 pm

I will have to check on that. I have never paid $65/ft. for SS chimney. And I don't use the cheap stuff. Unless there are some brands out there significantly better then the Metalbesto's II from Selkirk.

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Fri. Jan. 30, 2009 6:33 pm

Just for a point of reference...
http://www.ventingpipe.com/display.cfm?categoryID=279
The price per foot depends on the path the pipe takes...
Thru the wall kit?
An offset?
Support kits?
Sure a 48" section of pipe will be cheaper but you must divide the total cost by the height to come up with the true cost per foot.

 
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Post by rberq » Fri. Jan. 30, 2009 6:47 pm

About five years ago it cost me $1,000 for a 15-foot SS chimney through a similar one-story roof. So figure inflation, and maybe $1,500 would be today's price. You may be in a more expensive area for labor, though there should be plenty of folks eager for the work right now.

Mine was put in by a stove dealer, and I was not impressed by his work. A decent carpenter would probably have done a better job. If you are a do-it-yourselfer (I am not) I'm sure you could handle the job easily, though this is not the time of year I would choose to do it!

 
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Post by crunch » Fri. Jan. 30, 2009 6:58 pm

The chimney would run straight up from the back of the stove to ceiling approx 6ft. It is going in a sun room close to the wall and there is no attic that it has to pass through, so I am guessing that from ceiling indoor to roof it is approx 2 feet. Total so far 8 feet. On the roof the pipe will have to be approx 8 to 10 feet to get 2 feet above the peak of the roof. Total pipe is 6ft + 2ft + 10t = 18ft.
Even if it was 100.00 a foot that would be 1,800 so labor would be 1,200. I think I will keep looking. Thanks for everyones feedback.

 
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Post by rberq » Fri. Jan. 30, 2009 7:11 pm

crunch wrote:The chimney would run straight up from the back of the stove to ceiling
Here's a design suggestion: My SS just projects a foot or so below the ceiling, it doesn't come all the way down to the stove. It's easier to use standard stove pipe from the stove to the bottom of the SS chimney, gives you more flexibility in positioning the stove than if you run the SS all the way down. Looks better, too, gives you room to install the barometric damper, etc. etc.

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Fri. Jan. 30, 2009 10:28 pm

Double wall stove pipe inside for the close clearance,6".
12 ft at $65 for the outside $780 plus the inside DSP $300.
$1000-1200 in parts 12 man hours to install at your local labor rates.
$2000 to $2400 would seem about right.

 
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Post by Freddy » Fri. Jan. 30, 2009 11:27 pm

12 hours to install? I'll do it flat rate in 4. Four is even generous. Two hours is more than enough to get a hole in the roof, flash it & seal it. That leaves 2 hours to go twist snap twist snap. I could take an hour lunch during the 4 hours! I don't charge unless I'm on site. I figure the 30% profit on the parts pays me to go get the parts.

 
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Post by CapeCoaler » Sat. Jan. 31, 2009 12:02 am

Freddy,
I am a pricing pessimist.
If I quote the job at 12 and it takes 8 and tell them it was easier to do than I thought and only bill them for the 8, I am a hero.
If I quote it tight at 6 hours, it takes some extra time goes to 8, then I eat the time or I am an ass.
I bill for my actual time and will always estimate high and tell the customer so!
there is no attic that it has to pass through, so I am guessing that from ceiling indoor to roof it is approx 2 feet
There is a reason the estimate was that high in this economy.


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