Your favorite YouTube videos?

Re: Your favorite YouTube videos?

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat Apr 11, 2009 8:06 pm

mikeandgerry wrote:
wsherrick wrote: I had the good fortune of working on this locomotive back in the late 1980's when it was still in service on the Norfolk Southern.


What an incredible honor.

The video was amazing. It is an impressive locomotive. My wife heard the video from the upstairs and came running down to see it.

How does that locomotive compare in power with a current freight diesel we might see in service now in the northeast? I guessed that it would require three diesels to pull that line of cars.


This locomotive when in regular service pulled trains of up to 18,000 Tons BY ITSELF. No, that's not a typo; those are the correct amount of zeros there. This was an everyday occurrence as they pulled coal to Portsmouth Ohio. These locomotives were best used in high speed manifest freight service where they could and did pull trains of 6,000 tons at 60MPH everyday. They also cost less to run and maintain and produced more productivity per train mile than the diesels they were compared against.
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Re: Your favorite YouTube videos?

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:02 pm

wsherrick wrote:They also cost less to run and maintain and produced more productivity per train mile than the diesels they were compared against.


So why did they switch? The smoke?
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Re: Your favorite YouTube videos?

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Sat Apr 11, 2009 11:12 pm

The drives take a pounding and require frequent rebuilds, kind of expensive to maintain.
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Re: Your favorite YouTube videos?

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Sun Apr 12, 2009 3:40 am

coaledsweat wrote:The drives take a pounding and require frequent rebuilds, kind of expensive to maintain.


The original author, wsherrick, said the opposite:

They also cost less to run and maintain and produced more productivity per train mile than the diesels they were compared against.


I think you two had better hash it out.
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Re: Your favorite YouTube videos?

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Re: Your favorite YouTube videos?

PostBy: mr1precision On: Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:03 pm


WOW! Hope he wears a cup. :shock:
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Re: Your favorite YouTube videos?

PostBy: AdkCoal On: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:40 pm

Still working on my release but it is better than this one.

http://www.maniacworld.com/worst-bowlin ... -ever.html
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Re: Your favorite YouTube videos?

PostBy: New Hope Engineer On: Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:50 am

mikeandgerry wrote:
coaledsweat wrote:The drives take a pounding and require frequent rebuilds, kind of expensive to maintain.


The original author, wsherrick, said the opposite:

They also cost less to run and maintain and produced more productivity per train mile than the diesels they were compared against.


I think you two had better hash it out.

Steam locomotives are more labor intensive then the diesels,thats just one of the reasons they faded into our history books. :(
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Re: Your favorite YouTube videos?

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:56 am

mikeandgerry wrote:
coaledsweat wrote:The drives take a pounding and require frequent rebuilds, kind of expensive to maintain.


The original author, wsherrick, said the opposite:

They also cost less to run and maintain and produced more productivity per train mile than the diesels they were compared against.


I think you two had better hash it out.


Maybe the author doesn't know there is difference between operating expenses (cost of operating) and maintenance expenses (cost of maintaining). Steam Locomotives require continuous maintenance and still beat themselves to death in short order requiring rebuilds that take them out of service. They don't make money when they are out of service. If they were cheaper to run, why did they disappear in a decade when the diesel electric was perfected?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locomotive

Diesel locomotives require considerably less maintenance than steam, with a corresponding reduction in the number of personnel needed to keep the fleet in service. The best steam locomotives spent an average of three to five days per month in the shop for routine maintenance and running repairs.[citation needed] Heavy overhauls were frequent, often involving removal of the boiler from the frame for major repairs. In contrast, a typical diesel locomotive requires no more than eight to ten hours of maintenance per month.[citation needed] and may run for many years between heavy overhauls.
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Re: Your favorite YouTube videos?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:47 am

Some of my favorite feture the swiss army knife of airplanes in the starring role:

C130 landing AND taking off from the USS Forrestall:



http://www.theaviationzone.com/factshee ... restal.asp
The initial sea-born landings on 30 October 1963 were made into a 40-knot wind. Altogether, the crew successfully negotiated 29 touch-and-go landings, 21 unarrested full-stop landings, and 21 unassisted takeoffs at gross weights of 85,000 pounds up to 121,000 pounds. At 85,000 pounds, the KC-130F came to a complete stop within 267 feet, about twice the aircraft's wing span! The Navy was delighted to discover that even with a maximum payload, the plane used only 745 feet for takeoff and 460 feet for landing roll.




"Credible Sport" Tests, including a crash.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Credible_Sport
The Credible Sport concept called for modified C-130 Hercules cargo planes to land in the Amjadien (soccer) Stadium across the street from the American Embassy in Tehran and airlift out the rescued hostages. The aircraft would then be flown to and landed on an aircraft carrier for immediate medical treatment of injured hostages. Three MC-130 Combat Talon crews (all Eagle Claw veterans) were assigned to fly the three aircraft drawn from the 463rd Military Airlift Wing, with the concept plan calling for the mission to originate in the United States, reaching Iran by five in flight refuelings.


Now could you imagine being some Iranian sitting in the Soccer stadium and here comes this plane... :lol:

Edit: about midway through second video there is dead stop take-off. Looks like they go about 100 feet at the most.
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Re: Your favorite YouTube videos?

PostBy: 009to090 On: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:51 am

Richard S. wrote:Some of my favorite feture the swiss army knife of airplanes in the starring role:
C130 landing AND taking off from the USS Forrestall:


The C-130 and its many variations , was and still is an extremely versitile aircraft. I always liked the fact that the pitch on the props could be changed , in FLIGHT and in landing, to act as air brakes, slowing the plane down dramatically, similiar to today's aircraft's Thrust-Reversers (TRs). On the ground while taxiing, this feature allowed you to back the plane up. The Jato did not work too well for this. :shock:
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Re: Your favorite YouTube videos?

PostBy: mikeandgerry On: Wed Apr 29, 2009 3:08 pm

coaledsweat wrote:If they were cheaper to run, why did they disappear in a decade when the diesel electric was perfected?



So why are we burning coal, again?
:?
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Re: Your favorite YouTube videos?

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:44 pm

mikeandgerry wrote:
coaledsweat wrote:If they were cheaper to run, why did they disappear in a decade when the diesel electric was perfected?



So why are we burning coal, again?
:?


Coal is still cheaper to run a locomotive than diesel. The problem is the power of steam beats the mechanical parts to a pulp in short order and it needs to be rebuilt frequently. This costs a lot more than a bunch hopper cars full of coal. The diesel/electrics are much longer lived than the steam and it offsets the fuel cost significantly, they are cheaper to own and operate. They don't have the brute power however.
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Re: Your favorite YouTube videos?

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