Health issue?

Health issue?

PostBy: av8r On: Fri Feb 06, 2009 4:55 pm

A friend called me today to tell me someone he knows has a wife that had been feeling more and more sluggish over the winter. She went to see a doctor (homeopath I believe) and within a short amount of time of her seeing the doc, he asks if she has a coal stove at home. He says she has high nickel in her blood/body. This doc had no way to know that she did in fact heat with a coal stove, yet he pulled this out of the air. I found this curious and wondered what you long time users thought about this?

thanks
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Re: Health issue?

PostBy: Paulie On: Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:01 pm

Did a quick google on it, seems smokers ingest at a higher rate. Can also come from food and drinking water. They did
not mention coal. Though if that is the suspect, it would be inhaling the dust. Who knows?
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Re: Health issue?

PostBy: av8r On: Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:10 pm

My initial impression is that if the stove was operating correctly, it has to be a negative pressure vessel so the coal inhalation would have had to been either from dust or the exhaust (powervent maybe?)

I found some references to Chinese health issue with unvented "smoky coal" fires and high nickel concentrations, but that's 3rd world stuff.
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Re: Health issue?

PostBy: coalmeister On: Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:16 pm

I have started wearing a good sealing quality dust respirator when moving coal or ash even when no dust is visible, as that stuff is super fine. I had noticed my nose was "stuffy" after loading coal or dumping ash. The white respirator filters are slightly grey after just a few uses. The cheap masks didn't fit well enough to seal.
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Re: Health issue?

PostBy: Yanche On: Fri Feb 06, 2009 5:56 pm

I use a professional quality respirator, the kind with replaceable cartridges. Be sure to read the instructions on how to properly seal it to your face and how to periodically clean it. When it's not in use be sure it's in a sealed container so that the dust from coal burning does not settle on the respirator. If it does you will be surely breathing it in the next time you wear it.
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Re: Health issue?

PostBy: djackman On: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:52 pm

av8r wrote: She went to see a doctor (homeopath I believe)


I'd suggest trying a real doctor with real blood tests to see if there are elevated levels of heavy metals in her body.

A homeopath is not a doctor, more likely a granola-head receiving signals from Al Gore at night.
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Re: Health issue?

PostBy: sterling40man On: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:37 am

djackman wrote:more likely a granola-head receiving signals from Al Gore at night.


:funny: :rofl: :lol:
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Re: Health issue?

PostBy: coalkirk On: Sat Feb 07, 2009 9:27 am

But he seemed so experienced and sincere!
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Re: Health issue?

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:37 am

:lol:
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Re: Health issue?

PostBy: av8r On: Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:37 pm

djackman wrote:
av8r wrote: She went to see a doctor (homeopath I believe)


I'd suggest trying a real doctor with real blood tests to see if there are elevated levels of heavy metals in her body.

A homeopath is not a doctor, more likely a granola-head receiving signals from Al Gore at night.


Well...a few years ago when all the medical docs between here and Cali couldn't figure out what was up with my wife during her post chemo days, a local Chiropractor who is also a homeopath figured her out in one visit and had her healthy within a few weeks. Docs wanted to feed her all kinds of drugs with horrible side effects. This guy fed her 3 supplements. That's it. Since our family has been visiting him my kids haven't been sick (going on 4 years now) I've been kinda sick once (this December) and my wife who teaches 65 5th graders each day has not been ill either. So...you may scoff, but it's hard to argue with results.
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Re: Health issue?

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:56 pm

Not knockin' them but when they make such a pronouncement and there is a test to quantify the levels let us do the test.
A blend of modern medicine and some of the 'non-traditional' medicines seem to be the best.
Chicken soup and Chinese medicine have been around for quite awhile!
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Re: Health issue?

PostBy: Dallas On: Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:45 pm

Hi All,
I haven't posted in quite some time, but I figured this was the place to come to, for either answers or to cause some thought.

About 2 years ago, after seeing about 25 doctors concerning a problem I was having, I finally diagnosed it myself, to some extent.

My symptoms included, swollen glands in my neck, trouble swallowing (sometimes), lesions on my face, neck, head, and legs. Plus, when I went out in the cold to dump the ashes, I would have a wheezing in my throat, when I exhaled. Effects became worse, when I drank beer or wine. I became more sensitive to some foods. I had always had allergies .. mostly hay fever, but I was also allergic to sulfa drugs. All of the above had sulfites. (The doctors claim they are not the same.)

As I progressed though, to my diagnosis, I discovered, anything with sulfides and sulfites, in one form or another made things worse.

Backing up, the whole mess seemed to start at the same time as, a tooth abscess, root canal and extraction, 8 years before. Yes, this thing started and got worse for 8 years! The doctors didn't have a clue.

What I discovered, was that anaerobic bacteria can live with no food or oxygen and produce a toxin, hydrogen sulfide, which is right up there with cyanide! I had my dentist x-ray my jaw and he found that the bone had not grown shut (healed). I had the jaw excavated clear to the bottom of the removed tooth cavity. The doctors never said, what they found, but did say, "they thought, I would feel better".

Within a few weeks, I did feel better. However, last winter, my skin was very dry (I also take a diuretic for high B/P, which contains a sulfur compound) and as the winter progressed, my skin had an extensive amount of dermatitis. This season, the dermatitis, has started again.

Last year, I wondered, and again, this year, I wonder, is it from coal dust/sulfur? I tend to believe, that the fact that sulfates had given me all of the previous problems, my whole system may be compromised and overly sensitive to sulfur. Right now, my arms are the worse, although, my legs are a little itchy. I'm thinking, the dust may be from, when I scoop the coal from my bin. I did install a water hose at the bin, last year and wet the coal before moving it.

I found this article Airborne occupational allergic contact dermatitis from coal dust - Monz[]n - 2007 - Allergy - Wiley Online Library.

Anybody else, who can relate to this malady?
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Re: Health issue?

PostBy: Berlin On: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:35 pm

having high levels of heavy metals is a common gimmick these guys think up. A homeopath is NOT a medical doctor and you should not rely on them for an accurate diagnosis. While I've dealt with far too many real doctors that are idiots, especially when it comes to diagnostics, I've also seen the damage crackpot witch-"doctors" or homeopaths, chiropractors etc. can do. A girl I went to school with went to see a homeopath because she was having some problems, he told her it was high chromium or nickel or something in her blood and a few months later she was diagnosed (correctly) by an MD with leukemia. I remember it being some heavy metal (which later tests by MD's showed to be false) because after she mentioned to me the "wierd" thing she had I told her that was highly unlikely at the time. She is doing well today, but her stupid reliance on a homeopath could have killed her. If you're having problems go talk to a real MD (or mabey a few of them since one rarely gets everything right) and let modern medical science do its best for you.

Dallas, i think what you may have had was a chronic infection that led to things getting out of hand. I have had two throat surgeries to remove abscessed and infected tissue and I have some Idea of the problems a long-term chronic infection can cause; when I had the infections my mucus membranes where so out of whack I couldn't drink a beer without coughing up chunks of phlem - even though it wasn't "directly" related to my throat infection; serious overproduction of phlem and mucus was one of the main side-effects of the infection. I was afraid it could even be cancer, thank God it wasn't. I've found that I always get severly dry, cracked and irritated skin in the fall and winter and since I've humidified my house for the last few years that has disappeared. I had these problems before coal. Coal and most of it's byproducts are a mild immunosuppressant which reduce the body's inflammatory response, and thus reduce the likelihood that you will have any adverse reaction to the occasional exposure to small amounts of coal or it's byproducts.
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