President Obama's Press Conference

Re: President Obama's Press Conference

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:30 am

Ed.A wrote:Well except for the drivel of 95% of Devils post, I agree that Conservatives must return to their roots.


:lol: :lol: I accept your heartfelt compliment Ed.A :rockon:

(getting all "teary eyed" here) :cry2: :devil: :lol:
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Re: President Obama's Press Conference

PostBy: Ed.A On: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:52 am

beemerboy wrote:money.

In Connecticut, the gas tax originally went to road maintenance but when the Republican Gov and legislators saw all that money sitting there they decided to have the law changed to put the money in with the general revenue.


Bull Sh!t, the legislators led by DEMOCRATS did that, as well as promising the Casino funds would pay for more Highyway funds and also promised to take care of unfunded Education reqirements. The general fund is the Black hole the DemoCrat party has used to rip us off for years. Do you realise that the State of CT is giving out grants for $5000 raingardens in this "depression"?

So yes, I do look into these things, and I question my so-called "representatives".....I get a FORM LETTER that has nothing to do with what I contacted them for.

I was in Hartford for the AXE the TAX rallies when Weicker ( no doubt one of your heros) shoved the income tax up our asses. Remember that? It was only TEMPORARY. So tell me when is TEMPORARY up?
NEVER is the answer BTW.

Jodi Rell is a RINO, that's why her and Liberman are so loved in this State.

Libtards are going to destroy Connecticut just like Mass, Rhode Island, Maine and shortly ( One drink per Hour) New Hampshire....live free or uhhmmmm, move away?
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Re: President Obama's Press Conference

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:53 am

Ed.A wrote:Snow, Collins and Spector need to be thrown out ASAP.


Sorry Ed but your problem is allot deeper than that....Snow, Collins and Spector are just about the ONLY elected Congressional Republicans left in the voter rich northeast. Throw them out & you will undoubtedly lose 3 more Senate seats to us Democrats. :up: .(I don't think you have even ONE rep left in the House....NOT ONE left from the NE)
Nope.......any northeast politicians pretty much have to be moderates to get elected, so........as I see it.......you can either remain stubborn & refuse to reflect mainstream American values by ONLY representing the rich,the NRA, the oil companies, the anti-stem cell but pro death penalty,etc.........or you can try to add a little moderation to your party's platform & try to appeal to voters you'll need to win in the future.

You already have the far right wingers....
You have no hope of ever getting the far lefties.........
So who does that leave?.....The middle, or moderate voter who you have been stubbornly pushing away for many years now.
Again...Don't get me wrong....We'll gladly take your Congressional seats, but personally (believe it or not) I consider myself a middle of the roader & would actually like to be able to consider voting for a MODERATE Republican again. Many of my views are more in line with TRADITIONAL Republican views than some far left Democratic ones..(pro death penalty, American jobs in America, take responsibility for your actions,pro RESPONSIBLE gun ownership rights etc)....but you guys have been pushing me away for many years now.
I have voted for many Republicans in the past (Ed Brooke-Senate.....Bill Weld-Governor, etc) & vote for the man, not the party. Open up a bit & some of us may actually consider voting for one of you guys! :lol:
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Re: President Obama's Press Conference

PostBy: stockingfull On: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:06 pm

This is hilarious. Let's watch all the Republicans, amply protected by the 2nd Amendment, form a circular firing squad. :rambo2: :rambo: :rambo3:

Here's Exhibit A: http://www.gallup.com/poll/114670/Congress-Approval-Rating-Jumps.aspx

Then they can hold their conventions in Natural History Museums -- in the extinct creatures wing. :smoke:
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Re: President Obama's Press Conference

PostBy: Ed.A On: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:49 pm

stockingfull wrote:This is hilarious. Let's watch all the Republicans, amply protected by the 2nd Amendment, form a circular firing squad. :rambo2: :rambo: :rambo3:

Here's Exhibit A: http://www.gallup.com/poll/114670/Congress-Approval-Rating-Jumps.aspx

Then they can hold their conventions in Natural History Museums -- in the extinct creatures wing. :smoke:

And you Fascists and Communists can relive the glory days of 1939, you should be so proud. Like the Nationalization of Banks? Just like your pal Adolf.

I'm off to the Museum to see what my future look like. :roll:

You guys don't get it, you see we don't care. We have strong constitutions, our party lost it's way, we hold them accountable, we will suffer more losses in the short run but we won't allow it to happen again, a new version will come back stronger.
Libtards promote bad behavior, you have no morals you have no spine. Libtards want control, nothing more than to rule over people and keep perpetuating that individual rights are to be discouraged.

OK, but it won't be a circular firing squad. Most likely a modern day version of 1776, I'll place my bets with my family and my friends anyday against you and your Gun Free Zones. :lol:
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Re: President Obama's Press Conference

PostBy: BillMarti On: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:53 pm

Look guys either get your stories straight or stop making yourselves look contrary . First you say there is no pork then you say there is pork but the republicrats did it but we all know how truthful and honest the demicans are to this point don't we. But no matter what finger pointing and ranting you do you can't deny the money being spent from the beginning is none existent and you can't create jobs from none existent businesses that are supposed to magically appear 1 year down the road. The jobs that are supposed to magically appear for the infrastructure where's the money coming for the supplies, labor and planning. I guess you can see where I'm going with this- hold the drum roll..................................................It's the none existent money again. So Pleeeeeeeeese tell me where's the money coming from. Up to this time again and again what you will not do is tell me where it's coming from. So think for yourselves and admit we are doing something that just don't make sense you can't use debt for collateral to acquire more debt. This is not a loan but I would like to know how to make money magically appear I could use a couple of skids of it too. The republicrats may be responsible for some of this debt and again you accuse them for sitting back and not voting on this porkulus bill but remember your demicans were in office before and during this fiasco so what right do you have to point fingers they all took part in it no matter what your opinion. The guilty party usually has a bucket full of excuses and it can't wait to hear them. By the way their both equally guilty. At least I'm willing to relent to that are you.

Bill S.
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Re: President Obama's Press Conference

PostBy: stockingfull On: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:16 pm

Look, let's not all get excited here. We have exactly two choices:

1. See the economy going in the tank and try to do something to stimulate it by borrowing.

2. See the economy going in the tank and allow the "free market" to take its course, i.e., do nothing.

The second is what Herbert Hoover and the boyz did from October 1929 to March 1933, resulting in the highest unemployment and deepest Depression in our country's history.

So pretty much everybody with a brain (including Dubya, with his half-brain, and a large group of Republicans, including their candidate for Prez) agreed, starting last fall, that doing nothing wasn't a very smart option, so $350 Billion went to the banks right away (sadly, with virtually no strings attached). Now that was both parties, boyz. Then there was a little election last November, in which the electorate agreed that we'd already tried Herbert Hoover's approach and we should do something different this time. So we now have a big stimulus law.

Sure there are giant risks. The deficit will balloon, the stimulation may not result in lasting business vitality in the private sector (that's why there's emphasis on new tech and new projects), and we may be merely postponing the inevitable.

But what's the alternative? That's where the GOP is falling woefully short right now. We know what they're against, for damn sure; but what are they for???

And, for those of you who think Spector, Snowe and Collins should be hung, try to remember what happened when Newt and the Contract with America boyz shut down the federal gov't back in 1995 or 1996. How'd that work out for ya's? (BTW, that very nearly happened yesterday in Kaaliforrrnia, where, but for a single GOP vote, tens of thousands of state workers would have lost their jobs immediately.)
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Re: President Obama's Press Conference

PostBy: BillMarti On: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:34 pm

Stockingful,

So your saying if we do what California did and as they have been doing for a lot of years spend, spend, spend we'll end up going broke anyway. I guess that's a good example of where we're going that makes sense to me. And by the way they also have had all the liberal laws that are being passed right now for the entire country and look how it worked for them. How many times have they been bailed out? And yes the federal government needs to to reigned in again they have overstepped their authority again and again and how did it hurt us to shut them down for a little while to force them to do what their supposed to do. And didn't unemployment remain at 25% during the next 8 years after Hoover?

Bill S.
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Re: President Obama's Press Conference

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:40 pm

stockingfull wrote:1. See the economy going in the tank and try to do something to stimulate it by borrowing.

2. See the economy going in the tank and allow the "free market" to take its course, i.e., do nothing.

The second is what Herbert Hoover and the boyz did from October 1929 to March 1933, resulting in the highest unemployment and deepest Depression in our country's history.


You should dig a little deeper into history and tell us what Harding did in 1920 when the economy tanked worse than the thirties.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl ... ing_n.html
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Re: President Obama's Press Conference

PostBy: BillMarti On: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:46 pm

Coaldedsweat,

They conveniently leave out these things because it's not in the revised history books. But it worked and thats history unrevised.

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Re: President Obama's Press Conference

PostBy: stockingfull On: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:00 pm

Oh yeah, boyz, Warren Gamaliel Harding, that's the ticket! He's the guy who had the formula for economic recovery, right? :rofl:

Maybe that's why he was one of only SIX presidents who rated below Dubya on the recent survey of presidential historians.

http://www.c-span.org/PresidentialSurvey/Overall-Ranking.aspx

Jeebus, if only all the experts would listen to you guys, we'd be out of this thing! :discuss:

(Seriously, don't you realize that "FreedomWorks" is just another anti-tax shill for red-meat wingnuts?)
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Re: President Obama's Press Conference

PostBy: stockingfull On: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:04 pm

BillMarti wrote:Stockingful,

So your saying if we do what California did and as they have been doing for a lot of years spend, spend, spend we'll end up going broke anyway. I guess that's a good example of where we're going that makes sense to me. And by the way they also have had all the liberal laws that are being passed right now for the entire country and look how it worked for them. How many times have they been bailed out? And yes the federal government needs to to reigned in again they have overstepped their authority again and again and how did it hurt us to shut them down for a little while to force them to do what their supposed to do. And didn't unemployment remain at 25% during the next 8 years after Hoover?

Bill S.


What I'm saying is that, when you're down to your last chips at Vegas, doubling down is one of the options. It may work, it may not work. But, if you don't do it, you know exactly what will happen, and it ain't good.
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Re: President Obama's Press Conference

PostBy: Devil505 On: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:06 pm

BillMarti wrote:But no matter what finger pointing and ranting you do you can't deny the money being spent from the beginning is none existent and you can't create jobs from none existent businesses that are supposed to magically appear 1 year down the road.


BillMarti wrote:where's the money coming for the supplies, labor and planning.


BillMarti wrote:.It's the none existent money again. So Pleeeeeeeeese tell me where's the money coming from.


BillMarti wrote:you can't use debt for collateral to acquire more debt.


BillMarti wrote:The republicrats may be responsible for some of this debt



NO SH-T!!





I must be a masochist for doing this but......two points:

1. Just so I'm clear on this: ... Anything you agree with is a well thought out, logical point......Anything you disagree with is a "Rant"....Correct?

2. With Republican control of The White House for the last 8 years & Republican control of Congress for 12 of the last 14 years, & the mess our economy is in now, I don't think you have earned the right to lecture anyone on fiscal responsibility any more. Do you? (The American voter sure doesn't.....Are we all wrong but your side is right?.....and if we are all wrong, how do you plan on winning elections in the future?.......by lurching even further to the right?)
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Re: President Obama's Press Conference

PostBy: BillMarti On: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:10 pm

Stockingfull,

What does that have to do with the fact that it worked I don't get your logic?

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Re: President Obama's Press Conference

PostBy: BillMarti On: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:17 pm

Devil,


Again you claim innocents for the demicans they had a part in the vote that got us here. Now tell me how many didn't vote for this mess a few ,some the majority tell me how many are innocent you can't have your cake and eat it. Remember when your pointing a finger there are three more pointing back at you. I love this question where's the money coming from?????
Sorry I missed your last point but didn't you just do what the media accused rush of doing. What happened to the rest of the last sentence or would that prove my point of half truths your so smoooooth.

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