Looking for stovepipe water heater piece

Looking for stovepipe water heater piece

PostBy: JohnnyScience On: Sat Nov 24, 2012 3:55 pm

Im about to buy a $200 cast iron wood burning stove (all the budget i can afford right now) and came across this guys video showing a 2' stovepipe water heater attachment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5zOvanY ... ata_player

This is perfect but I can't seem to find them any where online, does anyone here know where I can find one and what their price is?

Thanks.
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Re: Looking for stovepipe water heater piece

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:02 pm

You're going to use wood or coal in this stove?
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Re: Looking for stovepipe water heater piece

PostBy: JohnnyScience On: Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:06 pm

It is a wood burning stove.

I realize coal is better for a variety of reasons but budget can only afford the wood stove right now. I'd Prefer a wood/coal combo as wood is a very easy resouce to obtain for free if i had to

I'm actually headed up to Harbor Freight today as they have a coupon for $130 for this stove, which is normally $200

Here is the exact stove from Ace: http://www.acehardware.com/product/inde ... agpspn=pla
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Re: Looking for stovepipe water heater piece

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:16 pm

Well Johnny the comments under the video by the survivalist guy suggest it's old and can't be found.

There is lot threads on this forum where you can obtain the same results with a coil in the stove.

Hilkoil makes a kit but I believe that would actually be more than the stove you are purchasing.

Hilkoil Search

There is lot of other "homebrew" setups.
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Re: Looking for stovepipe water heater piece

PostBy: lsayre On: Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:25 pm

The one in the video looks like a creosote generating machine. Sure to burn the house down if you are not careful.
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Re: Looking for stovepipe water heater piece

PostBy: coalkirk On: Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:43 pm

lsayre wrote:The one in the video looks like a creosote generating machine. Sure to burn the house down if you are not careful.



Yeah, sorry but the guy that made that video is likley no longer available because he died in a house fire....his!
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Re: Looking for stovepipe water heater piece

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat Nov 24, 2012 11:28 pm

He has an inefficient stove to begin with and he is trying to extract every last bit of heat from the exhaust. With that long run of horizontal smokepipe he is asking for a creosote fire.

I would be suspicious of the integrity of any new stove that sells for $130. Is it UL listed? You would be better off spending a little more for a good used stove made by a well known manufacturer.

Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Looking for stovepipe water heater piece

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:29 am

lsayre wrote:The one in the video looks like a creosote generating machine. Sure to burn the house down if you are not careful.


Why would you say that? It's double walled pipe. When I first saw it I thought they were suing the flue pipe for the vessel but it's just coil of copper inside the pipe. Seems like a perfectly fine idea to me.
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Re: Looking for stovepipe water heater piece

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Nov 25, 2012 7:11 am

Ah, that was my first perception also. If the jacket was the water vessel it would certainly be a creosote machine. The way it is set up it will not likely make much hot water. It will contribute to (or promote) creosote formation, just not as much.
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Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)

Re: Looking for stovepipe water heater piece

PostBy: JohnnyScience On: Thu Nov 29, 2012 5:49 am

Richard S. wrote:
lsayre wrote:The one in the video looks like a creosote generating machine. Sure to burn the house down if you are not careful.


Why would you say that? It's double walled pipe. When I first saw it I thought they were suing the flue pipe for the vessel but it's just coil of copper inside the pipe. Seems like a perfectly fine idea to me.


That was my thoughts, since it's double walled, how would it be any more of a creosote generating maching than one with regular pipe?

Obviously this isn't a very common part/piece since they're hard to find.

Is there nothing out there like it? I'm sure you can make a homemade version with wrapping a pipe with your own copper, but buying a piece that's already put together & with a 2nd wall is much more ideal & worth the premium.

How else do you guys transfer heat from your coal/wood stoves to get hot water with thermodynamics?
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Re: Looking for stovepipe water heater piece

PostBy: Richard S. On: Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:16 am

JohnnyScience wrote:How else do you guys transfer heat from your coal/wood stoves to get hot water with thermodynamics?


You run a small pipe loop through the stove, this will slowly heat the water in hot water tank through a themsosiphon. It's a slow action but the hot water will slowly migrate to the tank. For the boilers they come with regular coils, insta hot water.
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