A 1980 Reproduction

A 1980 Reproduction

PostBy: franco b On: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:20 pm

Saw this on craigslist for New Hampshire. The man is seeking to buy one to replace one he already has.

Very surprised to see this and learn that a company (Portland Stove Foundry) did reproduce an antique stove in 1980. A thing that many of us would be interested in.
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Re: A 1980 Reproduction

PostBy: Dennis On: Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:34 pm

It just doesn't seem to have that ornaite detail like the real antique stoves have
the castings look like their pressed/stamped with no fine detail
wonder if it has the same effeciency as the old stove have
wonder if the will last over 100 yrs of burning

Be a nice option to be avalible, since not too many old stove any more
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Re: A 1980 Reproduction

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 5:19 am

This is a St. Nicholas Base Heater. I am amazed that they made these in the early 80's. I'm sure they had to have it UL listed. I wonder if the testing records of this stove could be found. So apparently base heaters could pass UL standards without any modifications from the original design. I'm not surprised at that however.
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Re: A 1980 Reproduction

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:57 am

Soooo, franco b, is this interesting enough for you to track one down & make it a project? ;)
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Re: A 1980 Reproduction

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:18 am

freetown fred wrote:Soooo, franco b, is this interesting enough for you to track one down & make it a project? ;)

I would love to.

As far as UL listing goes, if you look at the New Hampshire craigslist under coal stove there is an excellent picture of the plate affixed to the stove.
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Re: A 1980 Reproduction

PostBy: SteveZee On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:52 am

The Auburn Stove foundry has most of the patterns from Portland Stove. I'll bet they could reproduce one. They also have allot of original Glenwood patterns too.
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Re: A 1980 Reproduction

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:37 pm

SteveZee wrote:The Auburn Stove foundry has most of the patterns from Portland Stove. I'll bet they could reproduce one. They also have allot of original Glenwood patterns too.

Would be great to buy it as a kit and assemble yourself.
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Re: A 1980 Reproduction

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:14 pm

franco b wrote:
SteveZee wrote:The Auburn Stove foundry has most of the patterns from Portland Stove. I'll bet they could reproduce one. They also have allot of original Glenwood patterns too.

Would be great to buy it as a kit and assemble yourself.


Can we proposition a "group buy" ? This happens a lot in the automotive enthusiast world , why not with these stoves? Sell them as antique reproductions not necessarily to burn in, even though we would, but to bypass any govt. restrictions on modern stove production. I'm very interested in trying to get a group buy for a kit. How do we start?
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Re: A 1980 Reproduction

PostBy: g13nw00d-man On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:19 pm

There one sitting at Bryant's Stove in Thorndyke Maine right now...I want to say they where asking $1,700.
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Re: A 1980 Reproduction

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:25 pm

Smokeyja wrote:How do we start?

You would first have to find out if the patterns still exist and then prices for a modest production run.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
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Re: A 1980 Reproduction

PostBy: Smokeyja On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 8:44 pm

franco b wrote:
Smokeyja wrote:How do we start?

You would first have to find out if the patterns still exist and then prices for a modest production run.


Yea we would have to see what the bottom line amount of people we would need for them to even make a run and with the overun of legal matters these days I wonder if they would even touch it without big lawyer fees . I know in the automotive field you just say for OFF road use only on everything.
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Re: A 1980 Reproduction

PostBy: stovehospital On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:45 pm

Your stove is not a reproduction. It was made by the original company from the original patterns BUT they were made , I think, in Jamaica . IT is more of a second series of the same model. the cast iron in them feels grainy to the touch and when you take one apart the metal tends to be warped and difficult to put back together. It also does not weld like the older cast iron and is hard to work with.
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Re: A 1980 Reproduction

PostBy: stovehospital On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:48 pm

I forgot to mention the Portland also made lots of other models at this time. They advertised in Yankee Magazine and you could get the full size ranges , cook stoves, and even the fancier early model ranges. I have seen many of the 122 wood parlor stove from the 70's as well.
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Re: A 1980 Reproduction

PostBy: NoSmoke On: Sun Dec 09, 2012 9:55 pm

I got an old Portland stove kicking around. It is not worth much, but I managed to grab a door handle off it and re-machine it all out so that it fit my Vogelzang Stove.

Sometimes I forget that Bryant Stove Works is 5 miles away and that I go to church with the owners son and that my Grandfather used to work there and that they could use the parts from some of the old girls we have kicking around out in the back 40!
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Re: A 1980 Reproduction

PostBy: SteveZee On: Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:20 am

NoSmoke wrote:I got an old Portland stove kicking around. It is not worth much, but I managed to grab a door handle off it and re-machine it all out so that it fit my Vogelzang Stove.

Sometimes I forget that Bryant Stove Works is 5 miles away and that I go to church with the owners son and that my Grandfather used to work there and that they could use the parts from some of the old girls we have kicking around out in the back 40!


Didn't realise you were so close to those folks! That's definately farm country around there. Some pretty ones too. My sister in law has a cabin on Unity pond which is alos in that area.
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