Pay raises for the Federal Governemnt, complements of ...

Pay raises for the Federal Governemnt, complements of ...

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Dec 30, 2012 9:29 am

... you guessed it, yet another Executive Order. Why obey the Constitution which clearly states that all matters of money must originate in the House of Representatives, when the President can merely skirt the Congress altogether, rendering it and the Constitution both meaningless, and making him our Imperial Caesar who can get things done (all that really matters per most of us) in the process.

I seem to recall that Executive Orders are only to be issued when a dire necessity comes up and Congress is not currently in session. But not any more. Not with BO at the helm. He might as well declare martial law and have a crown placed upon his head.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/oba ... 92223.html
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Re: Pay raises for the Federal Governemnt, complements of ...

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:32 am

Doesn't surprise me.
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Re: Pay raises for the Federal Governemnt, complements of ...

PostBy: KLook On: Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:37 am

Who is going to say nay?? The people that get a raise? The SC?? we are almost at the end of our form of gov. Small steps over many years.

Kevin
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PostBy: plumb-r On: Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:59 am

First he bought the election with giveaways like "Obama-phones" now he's trying to buy votes in support of his fiscal cliff deal. :no1: Is congress that dumb?
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Re: Pay raises for the Federal Governemnt, complements of ...

PostBy: KLook On: Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:58 am

Is congress that dumb?
:doh: :yes:

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Re: Pay raises for the Federal Governemnt, complements of ...

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:09 pm

KLook wrote:
Is congress that dumb?
:doh: :yes:

Kevin



+1
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Re: Pay raises for the Federal Governemnt, complements of ...

PostBy: Yanche On: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:42 pm

Quoting from the referenced link in the first posting,
"The pay raise will generally be about 1/2 of 1%."

Would you be happy if you had a two year pay freeze and then got 1/2 of 1% ?
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Re: Pay raises for the Federal Governemnt, complements of ...

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:50 pm

Yanche wrote:Quoting from the referenced link in the first posting,
"The pay raise will generally be about 1/2 of 1%."

Would you be happy if you had a two year pay freeze and then got 1/2 of 1% ?


I'll agree that these are paltry raises, but for me it's not a matter of the various Federal workers being happy or unhappy. It's a matter of how the raises came about.

Is President Obama merely testing the waters here to see if this makes waves? And if no one does make waves about it, the next time the waters can be tested a bit more, and a bit more deeply, ad infinitum. Keep it up and pretty soon Congress will be dissolved as unnecessary, and President Obama (or his successor somewhere down the line) will eventually be crowned, with much fanfare and with clear majority approval and support.
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Re: Pay raises for the Federal Governemnt, complements of ...

PostBy: Yanche On: Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:34 pm

lsayre wrote:
Yanche wrote:Quoting from the referenced link in the first posting,
"The pay raise will generally be about 1/2 of 1%."

Would you be happy if you had a two year pay freeze and then got 1/2 of 1% ?


I'll agree that these are paltry raises, but for me it's not a matter of the various Federal workers being happy or unhappy. It's a matter of how the raises came about.

Is President Obama merely testing the waters here to see if this makes waves? And if no one does make waves about it, the next time the waters can be tested a bit more, and a bit more deeply, ad infinitum. Keep it up and pretty soon Congress will be dissolved as unnecessary, and President Obama (or his successor somewhere down the line) will eventually be crowned, with much fanfare and with clear majority approval and support.


Larry, if you look at the text of the executive order the first like reads,

"By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 114(b) of the Continuing Appropriations Resolution, 2013 (Public Law 112–175), which provides that any statutory adjustments to current levels in certain pay schedules for civilian Federal employees may take effect on the first day of the first applicable pay period beginning after the date specified in section 106(3) of Public Law 112–175, it is hereby ordered as follows ... "

I haven't looked at the referenced public law, but I'll bet Congress gave him the authority to do it. Let's put some of the blame for a dis-functional government where much of it belongs, a ideologically deadlocked Congress. It's not just the President.
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Re: Pay raises for the Federal Governemnt, complements of ...

PostBy: mozz On: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:19 pm

Well, my wife works for the government and she will be getting 6 cents a hour raise.


Yanche wrote:Quoting from the referenced link in the first posting,
"The pay raise will generally be about 1/2 of 1%."

Would you be happy if you had a two year pay freeze and then got 1/2 of 1% ?
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Re: Pay raises for the Federal Governemnt, complements of ...

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:54 pm

Whether we like it or not, we're paying for their raises ... http://freedomoutpost.com/2012/12/your- ... rkers-pay/
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