Fiscal Cliff

Re: Fiscal Cliff

PostBy: jpete On: Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:38 am

Aren't spending bills supposed to originate in the House?

Oh well, it's not like they took an oath to uphold the Constitution or anything....
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Re: Fiscal Cliff

PostBy: franco b On: Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:05 am

Bammy saved us again.
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Re: Fiscal Cliff

PostBy: lsayre On: Tue Jan 01, 2013 12:16 pm

jpete wrote:Aren't spending bills supposed to originate in the House?

Oh well, it's not like they took an oath to uphold the Constitution or anything....


It's amazing how little regard those elected to serve us have for their own Constitution. The Supreme Court has it's collective head buried deep in the very partisan politics they are supposed to steer clear of (as justice can't be blind if politics are involved), so they will be sure to keep their heads in the sand over this one.
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Re: Fiscal Cliff

PostBy: plumb-r On: Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:09 pm

If I understand things right they aren't cutting spending they are actually adding to it :no1: . I just don't understand anymore. Our government is useless. Just bring on the revolution.
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Re: Fiscal Cliff

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Jan 01, 2013 1:15 pm

plumb-r wrote:Our government is useless


That pretty much sums it up. Not much more explanation needed. :mad: We elect morons then they keep populating in Washington. Republican, Democrat it doesn't matter. The Independents cant unify enough to be taken seriously.
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Re: Fiscal Cliff

PostBy: jpete On: Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:42 pm

I think the Independents are very serious. It's the American public that isn't.
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Re: Fiscal Cliff

PostBy: theo On: Tue Jan 01, 2013 2:55 pm

jpete wrote:I think the Independents are very serious. It's the American public that isn't.

:clap: right on jpete,,,,,and we let it happen everytime !!!! WHY ????????
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Re: Fiscal Cliff

PostBy: buffalo bob On: Tue Jan 01, 2013 3:36 pm

theo wrote:
jpete wrote:I think the Independents are very serious. It's the American public that isn't.

:clap: right on jpete,,,,,and we let it happen everytime !!!! WHY ????????


cause there are to many people that say my vote dont mean nothing...with an attitude like that u get what u deserve...
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Re: Fiscal Cliff

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:48 pm

jpete wrote:I think the Independents are very serious. It's the American public that isn't.



I believe they are serious, but I have still yet to see the unity.
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Re: Fiscal Cliff

PostBy: jpete On: Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:59 pm

Flyer5 wrote:
jpete wrote:I think the Independents are very serious. It's the American public that isn't.



I believe they are serious, but I have still yet to see the unity.


How much unity could they have if they are independent? Maybe the American people should stop slavishly voting for the Left/Right paradigm?

Frankly, I advocate not voting at all. If the government governs at the consent of the governed, then we should withhold our consent if we don't like the job they are doing. Not hire the same guys or just different guys to do the same bad job.
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Re: Fiscal Cliff

PostBy: lsayre On: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:22 pm

jpete wrote:How much unity could they have if they are independent? Maybe the American people should stop slavishly voting for the Left/Right paradigm?.


I think many feel that if being Democrat or Republican was good enough for Mom and Dad, it's good enough for them.
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Re: Fiscal Cliff

PostBy: theo On: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:09 pm

One of the worst sayings i hear time after time during a election is,,,, I'am voting for the lesser of the evil. BS
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Re: Fiscal Cliff

PostBy: lsayre On: Tue Jan 01, 2013 7:10 pm

The fiscal cliff salvation bill calls for $330 billion in new spending over the next decade, and $25 billion in cuts over the next decade (with only 2 of those billion in cuts to take place in 2013). I'm sure both sides will proclaim victory, but the truth of the matter is that without this bill we would have had real cuts. Real cuts are apparently not what the people desire.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/ins ... -330-bill/

I'm willing to speculate that $330 billion in new spending over the next decade will in reality become multiple trillions of dollars in new government spending by the end of the next decade.
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Re: Fiscal Cliff

PostBy: SteveZee On: Tue Jan 01, 2013 8:43 pm

We'll see Larry. Nothing is actually done yet. Senate has passed but HR is looking "iffy".
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Re: Fiscal Cliff

PostBy: SteveZee On: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:50 am

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