Ash Removal Idea

Re: Ash Removal Idea

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:45 pm

KLook wrote:I have the same boiler as coalkirk. I also used a bag in the drum. I used a piece of 2 inch energy shield insulation. very heat resistant. We put the insulation between the barrel and the back where the hot gases have to go down and out the stovepipe. I have had some problems with melting with thin bags and black bags. The best bags i had were real thick clear plastic. I got them at Mardens once upon a time and have never found them again. Last winter I used drum liners that were the thickest I could get and clear. They worked ok and I had to cut them at least in half so they were not to long.

Kevin

For those not from Maine, Mardens is a bargain hunters paradise.


Im not sure how much they are but the best plastic bags ive used are those ones made for asbestos removal (I grab bunches anytime i have a listing requiring such things)... next time i come across some ill grab extra's for ya ;) (great for burying all your assault weapons through out the yard when the "Man" comes to take em' too LOL)
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: Ash Removal Idea

PostBy: KLook On: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:51 pm

I wont be burying anything of mine. I am surrounded by tens of thousands of like minded individuals down here. The man will not go door to door here, it would require the military.

Kevin
KLook
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF 3000
Coal Size/Type: rice, bagged, Blaschak
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman (Back In Maine)
Stove/Furnace Model: VF 3000

Re: Ash Removal Idea

PostBy: 331camaro On: Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:15 am

so my paper thin bags wont work? lol. ill hunt down some of those thick clear bags. i was suprised how the bag was melted, just the way the flue gasses flow around the ash pan to the flue really is all that melted it, 3/4 of the bag was perfectly fine after a good 16-18 hr period. ill get it just some more trial and error. anything beats emptying those ashes by hand.
331camaro
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker k6
Coal Size/Type: rice


Re: Ash Removal Idea

PostBy: cArNaGe On: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:01 pm

AHS S130 Installation by MacCoon

This guy has a nice setup for removing his ash. This is something I was thinking about.
cArNaGe
 

Re: Ash Removal Idea

PostBy: coalkirk On: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:01 pm

331camaro wrote:i tried the garbage bag in the ash pan idea and the back side of the bag melted. i duno if the side of the boiler near the stack has more heat than the stoker side was a little suprised about that. do you have pictures on your method coalkirk?


Here's a pic of my ash pan. Notice the piece of fiberflas insulation between the pan and the side of the boiler where the flueway is.
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coalkirk
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF3000
Coal Size/Type: antrhcite/rice coal

Re: Ash Removal Idea

PostBy: 331camaro On: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:05 pm

awesome! thanks for the great picture and link very helpful!!
331camaro
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker k6
Coal Size/Type: rice

Re: Ash Removal Idea

PostBy: rubicondave33 On: Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:02 pm

KLook wrote:I wont be burying anything of mine. I am surrounded by tens of thousands of like minded individuals down here. The man will not go door to door here, it would require the military.

Kevin

AMEN.
rubicondave33
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Stove/Furnace Make: efm
Stove/Furnace Model: DF520

Re: Ash Removal Idea

PostBy: Kungur On: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:56 pm

As I continue to search for parts for this system I think I may have scored! I cane across a farmer that want to sell 20' of grain auger for about $50. He thinks it is 3".
I may go get it tomorrow.
Kungur
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: K-2

Re: Ash Removal Idea

PostBy: charlie On: Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:14 am

Too much hot stuff comes off the burner head of an under-fed stoker to make use of a cost-effective liner or bag, I think. But I had this great idea of hinging the door on the ash pan - open door to reveal a handle - pull on handle which is connected by a small shaft to a scraping plate at the back of the ash pan - scraping plate moves ashes out of the hinged ash pan door and into the.. uh the uh... ummm. Still working on it.
charlie
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Prill and Tulikivi
Stove/Furnace Model: 200 BF and TTU 2700

Re: Ash Removal Idea

PostBy: 331camaro On: Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:33 am

bags are still melting on flue side. considering looking for an ashpan that dosent conduct as much heat, like fiberglass maybe, or maybe a thick plastic tote, if it warped a drooped who cares it dont think it would see enough heat to actually turn into a puddle lol. and considering doing that coalvac conversion but for ashes, cant think of anything else other than the automatic auger set up.
331camaro
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker k6
Coal Size/Type: rice

Re: Ash Removal Idea

PostBy: funeraldut On: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:18 pm

I run two EFM stokers -- an EFM520 that produces about 5 bushels of ash per week in the winter, and an EFM900 that produces about 12 #3 cans of ash per week. The combined coal consumption is about 38 tons per year.

Because we're in the middle of town, an auger system to the building exteriors would be impractical. So I'm stuck changing ash cans every day. Until recently, my biggest problem with ash can removal was the 8 steps from the basement to street level. Of course, this was for the larger unit that produces more ash.

MY solution came when I saw an ad for a stair chair from the family of a woman who passed. Bought it for $300, replaced the chair seat with a platform, and installed it on the basement steps. 4 cycles of 3 cans each, and my ashes are outside for pick-up (my town picks them up for non-skid on the streets in the winter)
funeraldut
 
Stove/Furnace Make: EFM
Stove/Furnace Model: 520 coil, 1-zone; 900 10-zone

Re: Ash Removal Idea

PostBy: coalkirk On: Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:24 pm

What the hell are you heating to burn 38 tons per week??? :shock: :shock:
coalkirk
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF3000
Coal Size/Type: antrhcite/rice coal

Re: Ash Removal Idea

PostBy: Yanche On: Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:51 am

coalkirk wrote:What the hell are you heating to burn 38 tons per week??? :shock: :shock:

It's 38 tons per YEAR not per week. Must be the super bowl effect. :-) Still an awful lot of coal. Oh my aching back.
Yanche
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Alternate Heating Systems S-130
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea

Re: Ash Removal Idea

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:35 am

funeraldut wrote:I run two EFM stokers -- an EFM520 that produces about 5 bushels of ash per week in the winter, and an EFM900 that produces about 12 #3 cans of ash per week. The combined coal consumption is about 38 tons per year.

Because we're in the middle of town, an auger system to the building exteriors would be impractical. So I'm stuck changing ash cans every day. Until recently, my biggest problem with ash can removal was the 8 steps from the basement to street level. Of course, this was for the larger unit that produces more ash.

MY solution came when I saw an ad for a stair chair from the family of a woman who passed. Bought it for $300, replaced the chair seat with a platform, and installed it on the basement steps. 4 cycles of 3 cans each, and my ashes are outside for pick-up (my town picks them up for non-skid on the streets in the winter)


Based on your user name, I assume you are heating a funeral home? Great idea on the stair chair.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Rice
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy


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