power vent

power vent

PostBy: susquehannaretriever On: Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:10 pm

Hello, new guy to the boards. My wife and I are looking for a supplemental heat and I prefer coal. She is not so sure. Previously we had a Harman Magnum Stoker in our basement to supplement our gas hot water heat and I loved it; she did not like the dust but the warm heat was fantastic. Anyhow question, had to get rid of the Harman, went thru a flood. Want to put a small stoker in our living room. Do we absolutely need a chimney or can ANY stove be hooked up to a power vent an out the side of the house? Any input, suggestions, etc. are appreciated. THANKS!
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PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sun Feb 03, 2013 10:20 pm

susquehannaretriever wrote:Hello, new guy to the boards. My wife and I are looking for a supplemental heat and I prefer coal. She is not so sure. Previously we had a Harman Magnum Stoker in our basement to supplement our gas hot water heat and I loved it; she did not like the dust but the warm heat was fantastic. Anyhow question, had to get rid of the Harman, went thru a flood. Want to put a small stoker in our living room. Do we absolutely need a chimney or can ANY stove be hooked up to a power vent an out the side of the house? Any input, suggestions, etc. are appreciated. THANKS!



If you can do a chimney I would recommend it. In the long run it will save you money.
Flyer5
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pioneer

Re: power vent

PostBy: Badog On: Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:15 am

If you build a masonry chimney you will save money over 10 or 20 years depending on how much of the work you do yourself or get a friend to do cheap. If you use SS you will never save money over a power vent because it will not last 10 years. I went power vent because it was cheaper and faster up front and a chimney would have looked like a sore thumb because I have the stove in a single story addition on a two story house and my chimney would have had to be taller than the two story part of the house. On the down side it is a bit louder because of the fan and it has to be cleaned and oiled once a year or more if it is cold. Also you can smell it outside a bit more because it is low to the ground rather than 20 feet in the air. On the up side it is much easier to light the stoker because you can crank the draft when lighting.
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PostBy: TAMNOZ On: Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:03 am

Badog said that you will save money over 10-20 years. Why will a chimney save you any money over a power vent? Am I missing something? When I decided to to go coal the price for a chimney for a 1 1/2 story house was astronomical so I chose a power vent and would never choose anything else.
Jim
TAMNOZ
 
Stove/Furnace Make: KEYSTOKER soon
Stove/Furnace Model: Koker

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PostBy: Richard S. On: Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:09 am

TAMNOZ wrote:Why will a chimney save you any money over a power vent? Am I missing something?
Jim


A) A chimney doesn't take any electricity to run and
B) A chimney typically requires no maintenance or replacement even after 30, 40 or 50 years....


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On the electricity costs these are 150 watts? Running it 24/7 for 6 months is going to cost you about $60 a year assuming 10 cents/kWh. That's $1200 over a 20 year period.

The power vent is $400? How long do they last, 5 to 10 years maybe? Best case even if it lasts 10 years is you're $2000 into after 20 years.
Richard S.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Van Wert VA1200
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/Anthracite

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PostBy: maurizziot On: Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:44 am

susquehannaretriever wrote:Hello, new guy to the boards. My wife and I are looking for a supplemental heat and I prefer coal. She is not so sure. Previously we had a Harman Magnum Stoker in our basement to supplement our gas hot water heat and I loved it; she did not like the dust but the warm heat was fantastic. Anyhow question, had to get rid of the Harman, went thru a flood. Want to put a small stoker in our living room. Do we absolutely need a chimney or can ANY stove be hooked up to a power vent an out the side of the house? Any input, suggestions, etc. are appreciated. THANKS!



Go with a power vent they work great!!! Leisure line pioneer would work awesome. We have ours in our living rm.
Keeping 2700 sqft nice and warm. The only problem I have is getting the wife kids to come to bed. That is if they can fend of the animal laying in front of it. Good luck.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure line Coal Stove
Stove/Furnace Model: Pioneer rear vent

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PostBy: Rick 386 On: Thu Feb 07, 2013 10:36 am

susquehannaretriever wrote:Hello, new guy to the boards. My wife and I are looking for a supplemental heat and I prefer coal. She is not so sure. Previously we had a Harman Magnum Stoker in our basement to supplement our gas hot water heat and I loved it; she did not like the dust but the warm heat was fantastic. Anyhow question, had to get rid of the Harman, went thru a flood. Want to put a small stoker in our living room. Do we absolutely need a chimney or can ANY stove be hooked up to a power vent an out the side of the house? Any input, suggestions, etc. are appreciated. THANKS!



Just a word of caution here.


ONLY STOKER STOVES can be hooked up via a power vent.


You cannot hook up a hand fired to a pv.



Rick
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
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Other Heating: Gas fired infared at work

Re: power vent

PostBy: TAMNOZ On: Thu Feb 07, 2013 1:16 pm

I think the quote I got was like $3000 - $4000 for a chimney, so in the grand scheme of things and considering the initial start up costs, I'd take the powervent and replace it in 10 years.I have my Keystoker tapped into my cold air return and heat 2800 sqft 1 1/2 strory log home.
Jim
TAMNOZ
 
Stove/Furnace Make: KEYSTOKER soon
Stove/Furnace Model: Koker

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PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:00 pm

TAMNOZ wrote:I think the quote I got was like $3000 - $4000 for a chimney, so in the grand scheme of things and considering the initial start up costs, I'd take the powervent and replace it in 10 years.I have my Keystoker tapped into my cold air return and heat 2800 sqft 1 1/2 strory log home.
Jim



Get another quote for the chimney. Powervents work well but you will have about $10-12 a month in electricity also yearly maintenance and care. They also add noise. I know we do sell them and they are great if you just cannot do a chimney. But I also like people to know all the negatives as well. If you do go with a powervent make sure you also order the SWG oil with it and only use this oil. Spring time remove motor unit clean it as soon as it cools and spray with a anti corrosive. Store the motor unit indoors for the summer.
Flyer5
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
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PostBy: Wiz On: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:13 pm

TAMNOZ wrote:I think the quote I got was like $3000 - $4000 for a chimney,
Jim


:gee: Wow, I paid $750 for 23 ft masonry chimney.
Wiz
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker Ka 6
Coal Size/Type: Casey Junk Coal :(

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PostBy: lsayre On: Thu Feb 07, 2013 9:18 pm

Wiz wrote:
TAMNOZ wrote: :gee: Wow, I paid $750 for 23 ft masonry chimney.


Just recently?
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
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PostBy: Wiz On: Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:19 pm

lsayre wrote:
Wiz wrote:
TAMNOZ wrote: :gee: Wow, I paid $750 for 23 ft masonry chimney.


Just recently?


Yup. This past summer..
Wiz
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker Ka 6
Coal Size/Type: Casey Junk Coal :(

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PostBy: Coalfire On: Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:05 am

Wiz wrote:
TAMNOZ wrote:I think the quote I got was like $3000 - $4000 for a chimney,
Jim


:gee: Wow, I paid $750 for 23 ft masonry chimney.



I was going to add that to we had put a chimney up for my cousin, $500 in materials. even if you double that price for labor still only a grand. Now that is what I call a toothpick chimney. chimney block, liner, and mud smeared on the outside. I have a feeling in tamnoz situation he stated he has a log home, so the price he gave was probably for some fancy stone chimney to match the house.


Eric
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Re: power vent

PostBy: susquehannaretriever On: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:45 am

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone....input was appreciated and I believe we are going to go w/ a power vent, looking for a used leisure line stoker stove, if anyone has one or knows of 1. Again thanks! :D
susquehannaretriever
 

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PostBy: Badog On: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:46 am

I think you will be happy. A chimney is the best if you have one or if you know you will be using the stove for a long time. In addition to the reasons I listed I am thinking of a whole house dual fuel solution down the road which would mean abandoning the chimney once that is done. Enjoy the warmth. I installed mine as a suplemental heat source and have not used a drop of oil in 3+ years.
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