coal cradle??

coal cradle??

PostBy: titleist1 On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 12:20 pm

Although i have enough stoves I still can't help myself and I troll through the craigslist and classified ads routinely looking for stokers and stoves.
I came across a listing for a harman mag stoker that says it "includes cradles for large and small coal" .

I have never heard of this before...anybody able to clue me in on what a 'cradle' is? It must be something special because they have the stove listed for about 3x's what I would pay for it!!
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: coal cradle??

PostBy: McGiever On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:20 pm

Are you sure it is a stoker? Were there pics.? I think there was a The Harman Magnafire Coal Stove SF-250.

Sounds like a hand fired with 2 different grate sizes...1 for pea and 1 for nut and bigger???

http://tallpinesfarm.com/coal/sf250.html

Also: The Mark I,II,III and The Elite Coal Insert were all in the Magnafire Series along w/ the SF-250
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: coal cradle??

PostBy: titleist1 On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:29 pm

yes the picture was of a mag stoker. I can't think of any contraption that would fit on the stoker mechanism as a 'cradle'. It has me stumped.


http://harrisburg.craigslist.org/hsh/3923118222.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

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Re: coal cradle??

PostBy: McGiever On: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:51 pm

That's a real mystery???

Did you notice that is a very, very old model?

Three windows.

Flat shelf model...not the later A pent style...the give away is that the 2 outer back bricks are not cut angles. :)

Looks like the obsolete one piece grate...maybe that's the cradle???

Might even be one of those STF-VFS Models. :(
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: coal cradle??

PostBy: dcrane On: Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:35 am

The Cradle was not used for different size coal... the early versions of the cradle (which housed the auto-igniter) just plain sucked. but this was a company at the time that was pretty good and I think they shipped new cradles out on many occasions (don't expect that kind of service or integrity today!), Its a rice burner and always has been (no cradle is going change that, the poster is misinformed because he is not a member at NepaCrossroads :lol: )

I should add that this cradle was given for free because of its flawed function (the poster most likely did not pay the $39.95 for it at the time). He should be paying you because you have to install the re-called item that he never did! :mad:
Im not sure what these cost brand new now but it cant be much more than he is asking for this dinosaur :lol:
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: coal cradle??

PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:59 am

My co-worker picked up a much newer model for $1400.00. Last year.
2001Sierra
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90 Chimney vent
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Buderus Oil Boiler 3115-34
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker 90 Chimney Vent

Re: coal cradle??

PostBy: dcrane On: Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:30 am

2001Sierra wrote:My co-worker picked up a much newer model for $1400.00. Last year.


Yea... this guys been burning glue in his coal stove :lol:
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: coal cradle??

PostBy: titleist1 On: Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:41 pm

Mystery solved....McGiever had it.....it was the old one piece grate / housing that they called the cradle. They finally responded to my email question and even sent along a pic of both "cradle's". As DC mentions, I suspect it was just a replacement grate and the holes were not obstructed from years of use that's why they think they are 'bigger' holes for different size coal.

Yes, this one is a bit over priced IMO. There are a couple other newer mag stokers recently listed for around $1k which is much more reasonable IMO.
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: coal cradle??

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:11 pm

That ancient over priced stove would be a PITA w/ that flat shelf inside to big time collect fly ash and then eventually restrict the flue outlet and possibly backing up carbon monoxide gases into the house. The improvement with the "A" style pent-roof inside made that stove so much better...very little ash could collect compared to the flat shelf. :)

The sellers claim to 100K BTU is exaggerated too. :roll:
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: coal cradle??

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:58 am

I was more flabbergasted by the asking price to see the rest of the listing... :shock:
anthony7812
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: VanWert VA 400
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III
Coal Size/Type: Buck/Nut/Anthracite

Re: coal cradle??

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:24 am

anthony7812 wrote:I was more flabbergasted by the asking price to see the rest of the listing... :shock:


Yep...some of the prices for stoves on CL are from left field (I almost feel like emailing them and saying :wtf: :yearight: you moron, wake up and drink some of Freddy's coffee)

here's just one example
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/atq/3941455417.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
"In beautiful condition! then later says "Needs a liner" $5,000.00 im hoping that finial is solid 24K :lol:
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: coal cradle??

PostBy: anthony7812 On: Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:32 am

dcrane wrote:
anthony7812 wrote:I was more flabbergasted by the asking price to see the rest of the listing... :shock:


Yep...some of the prices for stoves on CL are from left field (I almost feel like emailing them and saying :wtf: :yearight: you moron, wake up and drink some of Freddy's coffee)

here's just one example
http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/atq/3941455417.html
This link is broken, either the page no longer exists or there is some other issue like a typo.
"In beautiful condition! then later says "Needs a liner" $5,000.00 im hoping that finial is solid 24K :lol:


Glad im not the only one. I have seen a older three bar grill mark 2 on CL listed for 2000.00!
anthony7812
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: VanWert VA 400
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III
Coal Size/Type: Buck/Nut/Anthracite

Visit Lehigh Anthracite