older EFM....

older EFM....

PostBy: wilder11354 On: Sat Aug 24, 2013 5:48 pm

might have a chance to get an older EFM unit, not sure if furnance or boiler. Was new in late 50's i beleive, only one owner. The gentleman is on in his years 90 or so... plus theres something not right with it. what evers wrong, owner said company is no longer is in business (?????)was used past winter, hes going back to fuel oil unit... is it worth a low dollar value, or free if new installer is just gonna scrap it?
By company no longer in business i think he means where he originally purchased it. Isn't EFM still in business?

went and looked at the unit, its a AF150-1 furnance. 3/88 MFG date.
wilder11354
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Harman SF260
Coal Size/Type: nut or pea, anthracite
Other Heating: crown oil boiler, backup.if needed

Re: older EFM....

PostBy: Pacowy On: Sat Aug 24, 2013 7:26 pm

EFM is still in business. The value depends on several factors, including what's "not right" with it and whether it has been removed from the basement. If it was used last winter it highly likely to have value above scrap. Even if the furnace itself is shot the stoker should be worth something.

Mike
Pacowy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: H.B. Smith 350 Mills boiler/EFM 85R stoker
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/anthracite

Re: older EFM....

PostBy: Mark (PA) On: Tue Aug 27, 2013 8:25 pm

Ok so I probably am just not reading this right but in the first sentence it was "new in the late 50's"

In the last sentence it was a manf date of 3/88?

what am I missing?

In any case agree if it was used just last year it probably has more than scrap value.
Mark (PA)
 
Stove/Furnace Make: 1953 EFM SF-520 High Boy
Stove/Furnace Model: Fitzgibbon Boiler

Re: older EFM....

PostBy: wilder11354 On: Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:26 pm

I guessed wrong as to when the man purchased it from prior conversatios with him at christmas time. Look at unit, and i misunderstood when he installed it, its built in 1988. Notin hard to figure out about that. need to get it out of his basement... like to remove blower, drive head....BUT... they're no coming off air tube to burn pot.... whats the secret? set screws out on blower flange.. been soaking with penetreant.....

If it doesn't come apart, can side panel in burn chamber be removed and remove assembled still that way? Also heres pic of holes, in back of heatalator chamber, jjust foward of where blower attaches to back of unit. metal is solid all around outer edges of area, so its still a repaiarable unit. No leakage signs anywheres else in unit.
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wilder11354
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Harman SF260
Coal Size/Type: nut or pea, anthracite
Other Heating: crown oil boiler, backup.if needed

Re: older EFM....

PostBy: stoker-man On: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:35 am

Worst case scenario....new heat exchangers are available. Sometimes the pipes have to be removed with a torch. I also used a slide hammer, but usually the pipe was damaged.
stoker-man
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: 1981 efm wcb-24 in use 365 days a year
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Chestnut
Other Heating: Hearthstone wood stove

Re: older EFM....

PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:11 am

Yes, you can remove the stoker as a whole.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: older EFM....

PostBy: whistlenut On: Wed Aug 28, 2013 10:48 am

PLENTY of PB Blaster for a few days....and a 'fire wrench' for tough bolts and nuts.
whistlenut
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130's,260's, AHS130&260's,EFM900,GJ&VanWert
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Franks Boiler,Itasca415,NYer130,Van Wert
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Yellow Flame
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska-4,Keystoker-2,
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaska,Gibraltor,Keystone,Vc Vigilant 2
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Van Wert, NYer's, Ford,Jensen.
Coal Size/Type: Rice,Buck,Pea,Nut&Stove
Other Heating: Oil HWBB

Re: older EFM....

PostBy: wilder11354 On: Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:40 pm

Got the blower/drive head off of air tube to pot. a little thinking and a few days of PB, and heat, and tapping around casting where tube goes in. Let it stand a day, used a 6" bearing plate to push head off tube. cut threaded rod in several lengths(3/8") longer each length(width of nut minus an 1/8" and switched to each longer rod as needed until blower head was loose enough to take off by hand.
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will be taking out of his basement this weekend, when out will do a few pics of burn chamber. Will be taking to a friends machine shop for a good cleaning up, and maybe a light blasting. will have to see about a soft/hard media, walnut shells or something so as to not reove any metal.
wilder11354
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Harman SF260
Coal Size/Type: nut or pea, anthracite
Other Heating: crown oil boiler, backup.if needed

Re: older EFM....

PostBy: Mark (PA) On: Thu Aug 29, 2013 9:02 pm

Burn pot looks pretty good to me...

Great job so far!
Mark (PA)
 
Stove/Furnace Make: 1953 EFM SF-520 High Boy
Stove/Furnace Model: Fitzgibbon Boiler

Re: older EFM....

PostBy: wilder11354 On: Sun Sep 01, 2013 1:35 pm

got the main chamber out of basement, toook off base late for cabinet. heres a few pics. Undecided what to do with it. Its a3/88 build date, there is one rear section which needs a plate, rest is soild shape.
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i am entertaining the idea of selling the fire chamber/heatalator. Anyone interested PM me, and let me know.
wilder11354
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Harman SF260
Coal Size/Type: nut or pea, anthracite
Other Heating: crown oil boiler, backup.if needed

Re: older EFM....

PostBy: stoker-man On: Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:22 am

It has the round baffle in the top, which is a good thing. Replacements are available.
stoker-man
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: 1981 efm wcb-24 in use 365 days a year
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite/Chestnut
Other Heating: Hearthstone wood stove

Re: older EFM....

PostBy: wilder11354 On: Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:58 pm

Its fixed, and its on its way to a new home in upstate NY. Agcowvet ( Jacob) was in need and i told him a fair price with the repairs. Hope it lasts another 30 years for him. replaced rear panel, bottom panel and half of one side panel by cleanout openings, plus 2 new clean out tubes. Used .125" steel for new panels and tubes. Agcowvet needed clean out tubes off for clearance issues going into his basement. He said he will weld the new ones on once its situated down there.
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wilder11354
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Harman SF260
Coal Size/Type: nut or pea, anthracite
Other Heating: crown oil boiler, backup.if needed

Re: older EFM....

PostBy: Mark (PA) On: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:32 pm

Great ending to this story!

AGCOWVET's rebuild looked like it was at the end of the line there. new life for an EFM.

Love it.
Mark (PA)
 
Stove/Furnace Make: 1953 EFM SF-520 High Boy
Stove/Furnace Model: Fitzgibbon Boiler

Re: older EFM....

PostBy: agcowvet On: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:35 pm

Yep, it made the trip back up here just fine. Still strapped to the back of the truck, but under tarp now, awaiting its delivery into its new home in my basement. I'll be starting a new thread with pictures of that process later on. Thanks much!
agcowvet
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: efm AF150
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Newmac NL-2 (oil)

Re: older EFM....

PostBy: wilder11354 On: Tue Oct 15, 2013 9:47 pm

Glad you & your daughter had a safe ride home. Shes a cute lil girl, thats for sure. Will be looking foward to the new heading and install updates. Bill.
wilder11354
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Harman SF260
Coal Size/Type: nut or pea, anthracite
Other Heating: crown oil boiler, backup.if needed