Union Stove Works Invader 2 Parlour coal stove

Re: Union Stove Works Invader 2 Parlour coal stove

PostBy: franco b On: Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:17 pm

badlegdave wrote:franco b.
You mention once the coal fire is going well I need to switch into base burning mode. How is that done?

From the pictures I have seen the stove is not a base burner, so no problem there.
franco b
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea

Re: Union Stove Works Invader 2 Parlour coal stove

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Fri Sep 27, 2013 12:21 pm

From the pictures I have seen the stove is not a base burner


Agreed and be happy, as it is it's a piece of cake to take apart, service, reseal and reassemble.
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Re: Union Stove Works Invader 2 Parlour coal stove

PostBy: badlegdave On: Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:08 pm

I have about 20 pictures representing my stove. It broke my heart not to at less put a wood fire in it but I thought it more prudent to wait for advise responses from all you kind folks. Here we go.

I am holding the ash drawer door showing the back of it which has some numbers cast into it. I thought someone might know what they meant.

I am going to second additional groups of pictures as I do not know what the limit is on single replys.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark II
Baseburners & Antiques: Union Stove Works - Invader 2 Parlour Stove
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric baseboard

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Re: Union Stove Works Invader 2 Parlour coal stove

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:13 pm

I am holding the ash drawer door showing the back of it which has some numbers cast into it. I thought someone might know what they meant.


Casting numbers. Again, why is nut coal falling through it? Don't put wood in there. Looking forward to more photos.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 110K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
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Re: Union Stove Works Invader 2 Parlour coal stove

PostBy: badlegdave On: Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:15 pm

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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark II
Baseburners & Antiques: Union Stove Works - Invader 2 Parlour Stove
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric baseboard

Re: Union Stove Works Invader 2 Parlour coal stove

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:23 pm

You are going to have to find out why that grate is not centered. Worn supports?
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea

Re: Union Stove Works Invader 2 Parlour coal stove

PostBy: badlegdave On: Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:47 pm

The grate has some play in it both left and right when I operate the shaker. The shaker controls the back and forth motion and that seems to be in proper order. I can reposition it to center up and that would mitigate the extra room created by the warped fingers. The nut coal does not fall through the grate ascoalnewbie suggested it shouldn't but the smaller pieces can find there way between the grate and the fire box fingers. Do the fingers have a name?
badlegdave
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark II
Baseburners & Antiques: Union Stove Works - Invader 2 Parlour Stove
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric baseboard

Re: Union Stove Works Invader 2 Parlour coal stove

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Sep 29, 2013 4:58 pm

badlegdave wrote:The grate has some play in it both left and right when I operate the shaker. The shaker controls the back and forth motion and that seems to be in proper order. I can reposition it to center up and that would mitigate the extra room created by the warped fingers. The nut coal does not fall through the grate ascoalnewbie suggested it shouldn't but the smaller pieces can find there way between the grate and the fire box fingers. Do the fingers have a name?


that firepot and grate seem beat to snot :cry: the fingers are called fingers ;) you need a new firepot for sure (the grate may be OK, but you can see better than I how it looks to you in terms of warpage & cracks?)
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Re: Union Stove Works Invader 2 Parlour coal stove

PostBy: badlegdave On: Sun Sep 29, 2013 5:09 pm

How, who, where can I get a new firepot.
badlegdave
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark II
Baseburners & Antiques: Union Stove Works - Invader 2 Parlour Stove
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric baseboard

Re: Union Stove Works Invader 2 Parlour coal stove

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:09 pm

The firepot is gone due to massive over firing but I see how the coal would leak through. Another clue is the magazine iron is cracked and deep red in color - cooked to death. Then there is a strange off centering of the firepot, I have at look at mine to work out how that is even possible, that's a real headscratcher. You will have to dismantle the whole body (easy to do) and upload pics. Does the grate shaker handle even work??? I hate to be negative but we need you to be safe. Nice install on the piping however.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 110K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93, Jotul 507
Baseburners & Antiques: Red Cross Invader 2
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: Union Stove Works Invader 2 Parlour coal stove

PostBy: badlegdave On: Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:15 pm

The shaker works real well.
What danger do you suspect I might be exposing myself to?

Can I get parts for it?
It is just like yours although heavily used, correct?
badlegdave
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark II
Baseburners & Antiques: Union Stove Works - Invader 2 Parlour Stove
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric baseboard

Re: Union Stove Works Invader 2 Parlour coal stove

PostBy: badlegdave On: Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:21 pm

I pulled the magazine or "coal shoot" as I call it, pulled half way up through the top of the stove. I felt that picture would show more that way. In holding the magazine up I had it chocked with wood and probably created the look that the fire pot and grate were off center. Everything lines up proper when I put the magazine back into the stove. The warpage on the fire pot makes things look more ominous than they would if the pot was in better condition.
badlegdave
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark II
Baseburners & Antiques: Union Stove Works - Invader 2 Parlour Stove
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut
Other Heating: Electric baseboard

Re: Union Stove Works Invader 2 Parlour coal stove

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:29 pm

Some of the casting numbers appear different but yes. Different batches of stoves may have different casting numbers and is that not the point of casting numbers, I'm not an engineer so I honestly do not know. I do not wish to alarm you so there may be no dangers. When you understand the rules you know when to break them. As for me I only know enough to assemble the stove as I think the maker wanted it. You need the advice of a stove illuminati here. Where is our resident metallurgist, Dave (dlj) yes, I mean you. Looking at the black marks, is it possible this was overheated with a wood fire. So, W Herrick, is this how wood destroys this type of stove? You need help higher up the knowledge tree that I can help you with.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 110K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93, Jotul 507
Baseburners & Antiques: Red Cross Invader 2
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: Union Stove Works Invader 2 Parlour coal stove

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:32 pm

I pulled the magazine or "coal shoot" as I call it, pulled half way up through the top of the stove.


The magazine/chute/hopper is made in two halves and simply unscrews at least it is supposed to. It then just lifts through the top.
coalnewbie
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 110K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
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Baseburners & Antiques: Red Cross Invader 2
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

Re: Union Stove Works Invader 2 Parlour coal stove

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:21 pm

I should be in bed with my teddy bear but you have me very curious here. The firepot is cooked however I just don't see how that firepot would match up to the grate assembly, it just looks to be too big. The fingers allow for air to reach the fire bed but not to allow coal through. The 4 panels of the stove unbolt and then open out and that is the only way to get the firepot and support ring out. It's a very neat and simple system. You need to go digging my friend we need that firepot out with a tape measure across the top. That means the chimney has to be disconnected as the back breach has to come out. OK Teddy, I'm coming.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL AnthraKing 110K, Pocono110K,KStokr 90K, DVC
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93, Jotul 507
Baseburners & Antiques: Red Cross Invader 2
Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut
Other Heating: Heating Oil CH, Toyotomi OM 22

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