CO detector with ability to shut off power

CO detector with ability to shut off power

PostBy: av8r On: Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:58 am

I've asked about this in the past and still can't find anything commercially available. I'd like to have a CO detector that would allow for shutting down power to a device, in this case the stoker motor on a coal stove. I know I can rig something up using a latching relay, but I'd prefer to buy something already built. Any ideas?
av8r
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Leisure Line Hearth with twin turbos (sounds like it)
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Hearth model with twin turbos

Re: CO detector with ability to shut off power

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:09 am

Jim D. builds all his stoves with that very feature.

http://www.coaljack.com/home/?page_id=50
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: CO detector with ability to shut off power

PostBy: nortcan On: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:19 am

I install one on each floor to shut off the power of the blower venting air around the Vig.
S-TECH, PS-001N
stech.com
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Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride


Re: CO detector with ability to shut off power

PostBy: av8r On: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:32 am

nortcan wrote:I install one on each floor to shut off the power of the blower venting air around the Vig.
S-TECH, PS-001N
stech.com

Thanks..that has relay contacts, but what do you use for the actual power shutoff module?
av8r
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Leisure Line Hearth with twin turbos (sounds like it)
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Hearth model with twin turbos

Re: CO detector with ability to shut off power

PostBy: nortcan On: Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:24 pm

av8r wrote:
nortcan wrote:I install one on each floor to shut off the power of the blower venting air around the Vig.
S-TECH, PS-001N
stech.com

Thanks..that has relay contacts, but what do you use for the actual power shutoff module?


I have a power box and the blower is plug in it.
The relay is 12V,and I have a transfo 120V to 12 V placed in a regular electric 120V box with fem.120V plugs. Sorry for my poor translation.
In fact it's is in a gegular 120V outlet box. A plug cord get out of that box and connect to the power. The blower is connected to that outlet. From the relay wires run to the Co alarm. If Co is detected, alarms sound and the blower stops.
Easy to understand for you??????????????? if not I can ask a friend better words.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: CO detector with ability to shut off power

PostBy: WNY On: Mon Nov 28, 2011 1:43 pm

Yes, in one of the old threads, the guy at CoalJack was offering them to the public, they are standard with their stoves.

I believe you can get them for Boats and RV's too, to shut off the generators if CO is present. Just have to wire them up a bit differently or may need a transformer (12V or 24V) They have many different ones available.

Coaljack C.O. Detector
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon

Re: CO detector with ability to shut off power

PostBy: av8r On: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:26 pm

nortcan wrote:
av8r wrote:
nortcan wrote:I install one on each floor to shut off the power of the blower venting air around the Vig.
S-TECH, PS-001N
stech.com

Thanks..that has relay contacts, but what do you use for the actual power shutoff module?


I have a power box and the blower is plug in it.
The relay is 12V,and I have a transfo 120V to 12 V placed in a regular electric 120V box with fem.120V plugs. Sorry for my poor translation.
In fact it's is in a gegular 120V outlet box. A plug cord get out of that box and connect to the power. The blower is connected to that outlet. From the relay wires run to the Co alarm. If Co is detected, alarms sound and the blower stops.
Easy to understand for you??????????????? if not I can ask a friend better words.

So the relay is in the silver electrical box?

thanks
av8r
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Leisure Line Hearth with twin turbos (sounds like it)
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Hearth model with twin turbos

Re: CO detector with ability to shut off power

PostBy: nortcan On: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:59 pm

Yes the relay is in it.
The power arrives at the white outlet, the silver box(connected to the white power outlet box) with the relay brings the power to one outlet for the transfo at the bottom and the other to the motor.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: CO detector with ability to shut off power

PostBy: av8r On: Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:24 pm

nortcan wrote:Yes the relay is in it.
The power arrives at the white outlet, the silver box(connected to the white power outlet box) with the relay brings the power to one outlet for the transfo at the bottom and the other to the motor.

Thanks
av8r
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Leisure Line Hearth with twin turbos (sounds like it)
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Hearth model with twin turbos

Re: CO detector with ability to shut off power

PostBy: McGiever On: Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:28 pm

Posted this earlier in your other thread...but neither is this a Plug N Play solution.
When this relay is combined w/ a Interconnected Detector it will switch whatever you connect to it.
McGiever wrote:For others who may not be looking for a "plug-n-play" solution:

Carbon Monoxide Alarm Relay Module

This relay will only activate when it receives a CO signal from an interconnected Carbon Monoxide Alarm.


This is the detector which is compatible w/ the relay:

Kidde-KN-COSM-IB-Hardwire-Combination-Interconnectable
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McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: CO detector with ability to shut off power

PostBy: av8r On: Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:51 pm

McGiever wrote:Posted this earlier in your other thread...but neither is this a Plug N Play solution.
When this relay is combined w/ a Interconnected Detector it will switch whatever you connect to it.

Need a combustion gas shut off


Thank you
av8r
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Leisure Line Hearth with twin turbos (sounds like it)
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
Stove/Furnace Model: Hearth model with twin turbos

Re: CO detector with ability to shut off power

PostBy: mariohotshot On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 6:09 pm

I like this idea. I just don't understand the hookup. Can someone please give more specific details on how to hook this up? Would an exhaust fan also help if it were connected to a CO detector? Thanks in advance!
mariohotshot
 
Stove/Furnace Make: keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: 90

Re: CO detector with ability to shut off power

PostBy: McGiever On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 7:54 pm

hook up is: The relay gets signal from alarm and then relay switches off stoker burner.

I would be hesitant to have a CO alarm relay start an exhaust fan...it is possible the fan would worsen the CO levels depending on what caused the alarm in the first place.
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: CO detector with ability to shut off power

PostBy: mariohotshot On: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:52 pm

Thanks, but more specific in voltage connections. 120V feeding the stove is interuppted by the relay which is triggered by the co detector. I assume the relay is 12v? It needs a transformer. The alarm is only sending a signal to the relay which in turn opens the feeding circuit? Correct? A diagram would be great!
mariohotshot
 
Stove/Furnace Make: keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: 90

Re: CO detector with ability to shut off power

PostBy: mariohotshot On: Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:27 pm

I figured it out. Once I get it put together, I'll post some photos and some wire diagrams to share. No it does not cost $300 to build!
mariohotshot
 
Stove/Furnace Make: keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: 90