coal stove versus wood stove

coal stove versus wood stove

PostBy: popoyap1 On: Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:24 pm

I am in the market for a stove to supplement heat here in knowlton new jersey.
i was looking at the vermont casting vigilant model , does any one know if it is a good coal stove and what the disadvantages of it.
or should i look into a wood stove too. thank you
popoyap1
 
Stove/Furnace Make: vermont castings
Stove/Furnace Model: vigilant 2

Re: coal stove versus wood stove

PostBy: dcrane On: Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:29 pm

If coal is the desire their is far better and far less costly than a VC ... but im going to bite my tongue and let other tell you how wonderful VC is :mad3: damb Commies
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: coal stove versus wood stove

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:02 pm

Put Vigilant in the search box to see what users think. The later model with the ash door between the legs is more desirable although good results have been obtained with earlier models.
franco b
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea


Re: coal stove versus wood stove

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:08 pm

Before you decide on a stove or fuel, educate yourself. There is more information here on this Forum about stoves, burning coal, chimneys and anything you could ever possibly want to find out about the subject.
Be a wise consumer and consume some knowledge here from the experience of literally hundreds of people.
wsherrick
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: coal stove versus wood stove

PostBy: stovehospital On: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:30 am

I restore and sell stoves.; I had a VC vigilant for a month and it was the worst stove I have ever used. They are very overrated. Very well made but very overrated
I burned wood for a couple decades and own a seven acre wood lot. I burn coal. It is easier to use(once learned) and has no danger of chimney fires. My insurance company likes coal better also.
People will tell you it is dangerous and will fill your house with dust and carbon monoxide and kill the caribou etc. The world is full of so called experts. Don't listen to them and get the coal stove.
I have my fuel for the next 5 years sitting behind the barn without bugs, without dry rot, without worries. Try that with wood.
stovehospital
 
Stove/Furnace Make: 250 stoves in barns
Stove/Furnace Model: #6 Herald baseheater

Re: coal stove versus wood stove

PostBy: VigIIPeaBurner On: Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:34 am

popoyap1 wrote:I am in the market for a stove to supplement heat here in knowlton new jersey.
i was looking at the vermont casting vigilant model , does any one know if it is a good coal stove and what the disadvantages of it.
or should i look into a wood stove too. thank you


Howdy Neighbor! I'm just east of you and have used a Vigilant II model 2310 to heat my house for somewhere around 13 years. Search my posts or PM me. I'll be glad to get together with you if you'd like. This model does its job well and has many good integrated features. It's as close to a modern off the shelf base burner as you can get.

Don't let Doug dissuade you from considering this stove. He's grown up with a ingrown poker in his patootie toothy There have been a few different versions of the Vigilant in both wood & coal and now just coal only. Those that opine about them should accurately define the model that they are speaking about. Some of the older versions weren't designed for coal and were indeed lousy at it. You can live with someone for a month but never get to know them if you're too busy with other stuff.
VigIIPeaBurner
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystoker Koker
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vermont Casting Vigilant II 2310
Other Heating: #2 Oil Furnace

Re: coal stove versus wood stove

PostBy: dcrane On: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:24 am

stovehospital wrote:I restore and sell stoves.; I had a VC vigilant for a month and it was the worst stove I have ever used. They are very overrated. Very well made but very overrated
I burned wood for a couple decades and own a seven acre wood lot. I burn coal. It is easier to use(once learned) and has no danger of chimney fires. My insurance company likes coal better also.
People will tell you it is dangerous and will fill your house with dust and carbon monoxide and kill the caribou etc. The world is full of so called experts. Don't listen to them and get the coal stove.
I have my fuel for the next 5 years sitting behind the barn without bugs, without dry rot, without worries. Try that with wood.


OMG... finally some sense from a reputable source regarding Vermont Castings as Coal Burners :punk: They are very pretty for all those rich wives who do their French manicures each week and like bells, whistles, tassels and tinsel on their xmass tree. toothy (that's the market VC chose to head towards and it is a "real" market however laughable it may be). but more importantly to me is the fact that I don't like to give my business and my money towards a company that is clearly "Not for America" at this point, but rather 100% for personal profits and zero regard for our country in the process (I chose NOT to advocate and NOT to give my American dollars toward helping them). I fully anticipate seeing a rotisserie added to their stove line to bake your chicken and maybe also a built in TV set someday :woot:
dcrane
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

Re: coal stove versus wood stove

PostBy: franco b On: Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:43 am

Time for your meds Doug.

Looking for a good pic of a Vigilant to put in the museum thread.
franco b
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea

Re: coal stove versus wood stove

PostBy: titleist1 On: Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:07 am

Doug!! come back in off the ledge!! two words for you bud....

Deeeee Cafffffffff.

:D :P

I can't believe you played the 'tinsel on the Christmas tree' card!! :lol:
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: coal stove versus wood stove

PostBy: Jersey John On: Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:29 pm

popoyap1 wrote:I am in the market for a stove to supplement heat here in knowlton new jersey.
i was looking at the vermont casting vigilant model , does any one know if it is a good coal stove and what the disadvantages of it.
or should i look into a wood stove too. thank you


I realize you specifically mention the VC Vigilant stove...and though I have no experience with that one, I did have a VC Defiant Encore stove for 23 years...and just sold it for $650. Not bad considering it served my wood burning needs for quite a long time, cost about $2000 and may have fetched a higher sale had I waited longer and not lowered my price.

Now...if you only plan on burning wood, then you're in the wrong forum. I still burn wood in a very efficient Regency stove, and will never give up wood. Then again, I have the best of both worlds, as I also have two flues for stoves and another just for a fireplace unless I want to install an insert. That being said, most coal stoves burn wood quite nicely...and in my case, I will if the weather is too warm for a coal fire. Not as concerned with long burns as I am for a quick warm up to the area, and when inclined can simply shovel in a light shovel of coal for a longer and controlled burn...which because the DS Circulator has a removable hopper could even burn a larger load of wood if one needs.

I'm sure that Hitzer and other stoves burn wood quite nicely...and now having both a wood and coal stove, would never consider having just one or the other. I truly enjoy my wood burning, open fires and wonderful wood burning aroma along with my beautiful blue flame, continuous heat of a coal fire.
Jersey John
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS 1500
Coal Size/Type: Nut, Pea
Other Heating: Regency Wood Stove

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PostBy: Freddy On: Tue Nov 26, 2013 6:38 pm

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Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130 (pea)
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Reading piece o' junk in the barn (rice)
Coal Size/Type: Pea size, Superior, deep mined

Re: coal stove versus wood stove

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:16 pm

answer: Varsity vs. jr. varsity..........................................crickets.....
michaelanthony
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly coat rack
Coal Size/Type: Pea, and a little nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

Re: coal stove versus wood stove

PostBy: Jersey John On: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:17 pm

Nice images Freddy....

Not to mention, nice looking stove. My Defiant Encore wood burner looked the same, only mine was black lacquer, which though looked great new eventually chipped from humidity in the summer and heat when burning. Really wish I had more flues to hook stoves up to. Always found the design of the Vigilant to be pleasing...but am equally pleased with the rounded door of my DS 1500 and am happy I have the higher BTU output as well as burn time.
Jersey John
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS 1500
Coal Size/Type: Nut, Pea
Other Heating: Regency Wood Stove