Which boiler for multiple buildings

Re: Which boiler for multiple buildings

PostBy: Pacowy On: Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:08 pm

Sting wrote:As a simple figment of the public internet its hard to tell from here if its "right"

Maybe Mike can tell from where he is at ????


I can't tell from here whether it's "right" either. I can say that I'm unfamiliar with any 2500 sf house in Maine that could satisfactorily be heated in the dead of winter with that level of heat input. In the absence of any clarifying information, I would be...skeptical (that's diplomatic, isn't it?) about its validity.

Sting, of all of the regular participants on the forum I thought you would appreciate my reference to Samuel Cogley. I guess not.

Mike
Pacowy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: H.B. Smith 350 Mills boiler/EFM 85R stoker
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/anthracite

Re: Which boiler for multiple buildings

PostBy: Sting On: Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:51 pm

Pacowy wrote:
Sting, of all of the regular participants on the forum I thought you would appreciate my reference to Samuel Cogley. I guess not.

Mike



it Depends! I wasn't sure how you intended the association!
Sting
 
Other Heating: BurnHAM=NG-gas

Re: Which boiler for multiple buildings

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:30 pm

Petron wrote:Ok did a rough calculation..........how do you read this gibberish.....I think what it saying for my home is 32733loss.....but I'm not doing the other building untill I know if it's right


150 yr old house? Poor insulation in some areas? Drafty? Something isn't adding up.

How is the house currently heated? Please explain the system in detail and the amount of fuel it uses.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

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Re: Which boiler for multiple buildings

PostBy: Petron On: Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:37 pm

Well the page refreshed and it's all gone , but I'll do it again this evening. And the post it.....
Petron
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Econo
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Re: Which boiler for multiple buildings

PostBy: Petron On: Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:54 pm

Ok gents / lasses which ever. I will try to discribe my home as best as possible..........cape style home
Heating is primarily done by a small leisure line econo coal stove placed in the middle of the house. Down stair consists of a room on the to the left of the living room. Living room.. where the coal stove is located.This room has stairs leading to the second floor . Kitchen. This is the original homestead....----- and the converted barn(12x14) with the main entry door----:---This room has stairs leading to the second floor .yes I have two sets of stairs Second floor has 3 bedroom . Only two were part of the original home stead the third bedroom in in the converted barn all rooms the two rooms upstairs ( home/ barn ) are joined by a door which is left open so the heat naturally circulates around the whole home.......in the cellar a real old oil boiler that picks up the slack in the cold days..anything below 25 degrees.....:)
Petron
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Econo
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Re: Which boiler for multiple buildings

PostBy: Petron On: Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:59 pm

Oh I forgot the baseboard powered by the boiler. 3ton of coal and maybe 1 tank of oil. A year
Petron
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Econo
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Re: Which boiler for multiple buildings

PostBy: Pacowy On: Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:14 pm

Sting wrote:
Pacowy wrote:
Sting, of all of the regular participants on the forum I thought you would appreciate my reference to Samuel Cogley. I guess not.

Mike



it Depends! I wasn't sure how you intended the association!


I just don't want people to be compelled to suppress their own experiences, insights and judgments solely because some computer program says they should. I think some of the dangers of that have been shown here.

Mike
Pacowy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: H.B. Smith 350 Mills boiler/EFM 85R stoker
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/anthracite

Re: Which boiler for multiple buildings

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu Jan 23, 2014 3:37 pm

Petron wrote:Oh I forgot the baseboard powered by the boiler. 3ton of coal and maybe 1 tank of oil. A year


Pretty miserly consumption for an old house in Maine. Does the boiler produce your domestic hot water also?

Also, does the boiler and baseboard system heat the house comfortably without help from the stove?
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Which boiler for multiple buildings

PostBy: Petron On: Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:26 pm

dhw is by propane on demand, the oil boiler would not shut down for more than 10-20 minutes..the last time I used it on its own I burnt 4 tanks and ended up buying a wood stove in February cause I couldn't afford the oil.....that was10 years ago
Petron
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Econo
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Re: Which boiler for multiple buildings

PostBy: Petron On: Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:28 pm

I wouldn't be able to survive with out my small coal stove, I've saved tons
Petron
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Econo
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Re: Which boiler for multiple buildings

PostBy: whistlenut On: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:00 pm

I know this has been said a million times, but once you go to a stoker boiler, you will never look back at the path you came from. I'm glad you are affordably warm, now all you need to do is find a solution that fits your needs and budget. Take your time and ask as many questions as you desire, and there are a few folk's not too far away that would be glad to share experiences. It is Jan 23 already, so your timing is perfect.
Last edited by whistlenut on Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
whistlenut
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130's,260's, AHS130&260's,EFM900,GJ&VanWert
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Franks Boiler,Itasca415,NYer130,Van Wert
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Yellow Flame
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska-4,Keystoker-2,
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Alaska,Gibraltor,Keystone,Vc Vigilant 2
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Van Wert, NYer's, Ford,Jensen.
Coal Size/Type: Rice,Buck,Pea,Nut&Stove
Other Heating: Oil HWBB

Re: Which boiler for multiple buildings

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:31 pm

Tell us about the heating system in the shop.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Which boiler for multiple buildings

PostBy: Petron On: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:22 am

The shop has a large trailer hot air furnace in it ....as long as you keep the temp turned up above 50 it seems to work .....but work quite hard......it was the best at the time...now the business is growing and I need to grow..
Petron
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Econo
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Re: Which boiler for multiple buildings

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:03 am

Seems many have problems with a central boiler serving multiple structures via underground, insulated PEX. Make sure the underground PEX is 1.25 inch diameter. Cha-Ching :!: :shock:
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: Which boiler for multiple buildings

PostBy: Rob R. On: Fri Jan 24, 2014 5:37 am

Petron wrote:The shop has a large trailer hot air furnace in it ....as long as you keep the temp turned up above 50 it seems to work .....but work quite hard......it was the best at the time...now the business is growing and I need to grow..


So you have never used the radiant heat in the shop? What is the btu output of the furnace?
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

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