Crawford BB Magazine Experiment

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Post by Sunny Boy » Tue. Jan. 20, 2015 3:37 am

Dave,
Ok, got it. Having such a higher top edge to your firepot liner you've added to the pot capacity about what the mag would add when used with a standard height liner.

You had me worried there. By your first accounts, I was concerned that the mag would not work as we hoped.

So then there should be no problem with the mag when used in a standard #6. They should add about 20 pounds more nut coal, or about 18 pounds more stove coal capacity,.... in addition to preheating the coal in the mag to reduce the temp drops during a refueling.

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Post by dlj » Tue. Jan. 20, 2015 10:08 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:.... in addition to preheating the coal in the mag to reduce the temp drops during a refueling.
Paul,

That line is the main thing that I like most about the magazine and why I will continue to use it. There seems to be two things that happen to help this, one is that there is a bit more coal available, but the main reason seems to be the way the fire burns with the magazine in place. There is that cone of burning coal that comes out of the bottom of the magazine with some of the coal not burning left up inside the magazine. when you break down that cone, the preheated coal drops down into the fire and gets going quite nicely. I haven't pushed the limits of how far I can extend my burn times yet, when the "ladies" are gone and I'm alone, I may do just that. I can handle loosing a fire, but if they get cold... it's not just a drop in temperature that happens in my house....

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Post by scalabro » Tue. Jan. 20, 2015 10:12 pm

"Crawford BB Magazine Experiment"

I get it now.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Wed. Jan. 21, 2015 8:36 am

scalabro wrote:"Crawford BB Magazine Experiment"

I get it now.

Yeah, it got off to Glenwood mags, sorry. However, since there's no Crawford mags (yet) known of to draw on experience,..... maybe the experience of others will help with your designing one and any pitfalls to avoid ?

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Post by wilsons woodstoves » Fri. Jan. 23, 2015 8:04 am

Scott, Just a thought if you have not cut or ground that Glenwood range lid. Measure the size of the hole you want in the lid and I will mail you a lid from the 3 ring cook stove lid, you will do less fitting. And mail that cook stove lid to sunnyboy as it is the right size and vintage for his range Wilson hope Im not to late.

 
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Post by scalabro » Fri. Jan. 23, 2015 8:20 am

Good idea and I would certainly do that Wilson.

I just have to get my piece of pipe and see if the range lid fits the spigot end of the iron pipe to act as a cap.

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Fri. Jan. 23, 2015 8:58 am

Hold on guys !

Thank you for thinking of me Wilson, and thank you Scott for willing to exchange it, but remember Wilson how long it took us to find a good outer ring for my Sunny's ring cover when I was at your place ?

Those 8-1/2 inch one-piece covers are easier to come by. I've seen quite a few turn up on eBay, but in ten years of watching, I've never seen a Glenwood 8-1/2 inch ring cover show up. They're always the wrong size, or they are for another brand of stove, like the one I found for Randy's Clarion.

Scott, I have the original outer ring of the ring cover, but it's got a crack straight through from it's inner edge to the outer edge. Your welcome to it if you think it will help your project.

Here's a couple of pix to help give you an idea of the size of the rings.

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Post by Photog200 » Fri. Jan. 23, 2015 10:15 am

Good morning all, my Andes #517 was set up for a magazine but does not have the actual magazine. I am going to attach some photos because the ring that holds the magazine might work for your situation scalabro. I took more photos so if you think it might work, I can post them. I am also getting ready to send a grate off to Tomahawk foundry next week and I could send the ring and lid off too if you think it will work.

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Post by scalabro » Fri. Jan. 23, 2015 6:30 pm

Thank you Paul and Randy!

Before I go any further I need a piece of pipe!

Trying to locate a piece now.....

 
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Post by KingCoal » Fri. Jan. 23, 2015 8:11 pm

yeah, well....that last pic is kind of a concern.

i know it's not a pic of your stove but, 8" collared iron soil pipe is 8 and 3/8" O.D.

if the opening in your stove is less than that there is going to be an issue.

at this end, the "stub" piles don't have many cut off pieces with the collar since that's the end they need to go the next whatever distance.

i have some guys watching out for a piece in the length we want, or, a full 3.5 or 5 Ft. piece that was allocated for but not used on a project.

in the mean time I've started canvasing the "works" shops in the town where I work too.

how do you feel about steel flange pipe ?

 
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Post by scalabro » Sun. Jan. 25, 2015 9:11 am

Steve...thanks for the effort!

I think I'll continue to scrounge around for a piece.

I saw some on Craigslist locally.

 
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Post by D.lapan » Mon. Feb. 23, 2015 7:38 pm

How has your project come in the past month??

 
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Post by scalabro » Mon. Feb. 23, 2015 7:43 pm

D.lapan wrote:How has your project come in the past month??
Cheap bastard that I am...I'm still scrounging for a free spigot end of 8" iron pipe! toothy

 
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Post by joeq » Mon. Feb. 23, 2015 7:49 pm

I heard there was a water main break in Farmington recently. Maybe you can scab something from there? :D

 
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Post by scalabro » Mon. Feb. 23, 2015 7:56 pm

joeq wrote:I heard there was a water main break in Farmington recently. Maybe you can scab something from there? :D
Grab your dually and let's go!


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