Painting A Boiler
-
- Member
- Posts: 27
- Joined: Sun. Dec. 21, 2014 8:21 am
- Location: Mt. Carmel
- Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520
- Coal Size/Type: Rice
Can anyone tell me if it is absolutely necessary to use high temperature paint on a boiler-----the boiler itself not the jacket. A friend has a reconditioned EFM that was painted with regular oil based enamel and after being in use for 5 years it looks perfect. I know regular paint can be used on cast iron baseboard or radiators and am hoping the same will be fine for my boiler. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
- McGiever
- Member
- Posts: 10130
- Joined: Sun. May. 02, 2010 11:26 pm
- Location: Junction of PA-OH-WV
- Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
- Hand Fed Coal Boiler: BUCKET A DAY water heater
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Warm Morning 414A
- Coal Size/Type: PEA,NUT,STOVE /ANTHRACITE
- Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump and some Solar
For a Hot water boiler to see 200* is very high. Around breech, maybe 350-400* is very high.
So use that for your decision.
So use that for your decision.
- StokerDon
- Site Moderator
- Posts: 7502
- Joined: Mon. Nov. 11, 2013 11:17 am
- Location: PA, Southern York County!
- Stoker Coal Boiler: Gentleman Janitor GJ-5, Van Wert VA-600, Axeman Anderson130 X3.
- Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500 reduced down to 3 grates connected to its own plenum
- Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut and whatever will fit through the door on the Harman
- Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood
I don't think high heat paint is needed on a boiler. It's not going to get much over 200 degrees no matter what. I painted this one with Rust-oleum, fast drying, indoor outdoor paint.
Hasn't burned off yet! -Don
Hasn't burned off yet! -Don
-
- Member
- Posts: 27
- Joined: Sun. Dec. 21, 2014 8:21 am
- Location: Mt. Carmel
- Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520
- Coal Size/Type: Rice
Thanks for the reply Don. You did a fantastic job on yours. Is that a Yellow Flame or Keystoker?
-
- Member
- Posts: 244
- Joined: Sat. Mar. 09, 2013 7:28 am
- Location: Milroy, PA
- Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 130
- Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Old Alaska Kodiak Stoker II
- Coal Size/Type: Rice/Pea
I used high temperature paint on my axeman. It smelled for about a week, but once it cures, it's tough as nails. I found that painting the underside of the flapper on the view port is a no no and had to wire wheel it clean. It was quite tough to remove the paint with a grinder with a wire wheel on it. I wouldn't hesitate to spend the extra again on the stuff.
Surface prep is a must though.
Surface prep is a must though.
- StokerDon
- Site Moderator
- Posts: 7502
- Joined: Mon. Nov. 11, 2013 11:17 am
- Location: PA, Southern York County!
- Stoker Coal Boiler: Gentleman Janitor GJ-5, Van Wert VA-600, Axeman Anderson130 X3.
- Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Harman SF3500 reduced down to 3 grates connected to its own plenum
- Coal Size/Type: Rice, Chestnut and whatever will fit through the door on the Harman
- Other Heating: Noth'in but COAL! Well, Maybe a little tiny bit of wood
It's an old Yellow Flame. It's in great shape for 40, 50, 60? years old. In it's original home it was run 24/7, 365 days a year. Not much in the way of corrosion at all.coalmanjoe wrote:Thanks for the reply Don. You did a fantastic job on yours. Is that a Yellow Flame or Keystoker?
-Don
- dave brode
- Member
- Posts: 478
- Joined: Fri. Jan. 15, 2010 5:47 pm
- Location: Frostburg, Maryland [western]
- Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KAA-2
- Hand Fed Coal Boiler: used to have a 5 section Red Square
- Coal Size/Type: rice anthracite
Other paints may do ok, but imo, this is the very best option. It is pricey, but it goes a long way.
http://www.por15.com/Rust-Preventive-Coating_c_11.html
I used it on my 14 ga flue. Trying to force my Kaa2 to give me more than it's designed to give, flue gas temps have been as high as 500F. It looks the same today.
Very hard glassy appearance. It will go over a lightly rusted surface, but sand blasting is best. I merely sanded the coated 14ga tubing flue with 80 grit and brushed two coats. Apply 2nd coat when the 1st coat is just tacky enough to drag on your finger. If it fingerprints, it's too soon. One coat is not enough, it goes on very thin. I believe that it hold up VERY well to bucket placement inside the ash box. There are spots of it on my basement floor that dripped during car under chassis painting that have been there 15 yrs.
Excuse the dust, and the scuff marks on the wall trim piece. It had some dirt, never got to re-coating that.
Dave
p.s. - as far as coverage, one of the little six pack cans did two coats on a Model T differential with some to spare. Once you open a can, you need to use it. It'll be bad in less than a week.
http://www.por15.com/Rust-Preventive-Coating_c_11.html
I used it on my 14 ga flue. Trying to force my Kaa2 to give me more than it's designed to give, flue gas temps have been as high as 500F. It looks the same today.
Very hard glassy appearance. It will go over a lightly rusted surface, but sand blasting is best. I merely sanded the coated 14ga tubing flue with 80 grit and brushed two coats. Apply 2nd coat when the 1st coat is just tacky enough to drag on your finger. If it fingerprints, it's too soon. One coat is not enough, it goes on very thin. I believe that it hold up VERY well to bucket placement inside the ash box. There are spots of it on my basement floor that dripped during car under chassis painting that have been there 15 yrs.
Excuse the dust, and the scuff marks on the wall trim piece. It had some dirt, never got to re-coating that.
Dave
p.s. - as far as coverage, one of the little six pack cans did two coats on a Model T differential with some to spare. Once you open a can, you need to use it. It'll be bad in less than a week.
Attachments
- Vampiro
- Member
- Posts: 211
- Joined: Tue. Feb. 07, 2012 11:10 pm
- Location: Transylvania
- Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson S260
- Hand Fed Coal Boiler: #45 BAD HWH
- Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mk1
- Coal Size/Type: Anthracite, Pea Coal
- Other Heating: POS gas boiler
Do not paint the boiler using regular paint. They make high temperature paint for a reason. Boiler manufacturers use high temp paint for a few reasons, and one of them is safety. These paints withstand high temperature and moisture. They are also durable. Regular paints can retain moisture which will cause corrosion of the metal surface. Even on metal boiler jackets, boiler manufacturers use high temp enamel.
- Pauliewog
- Member
- Posts: 1824
- Joined: Mon. Dec. 02, 2013 12:15 am
- Location: Pittston, Pennsylvania
- Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska 140 Dual Paddle Feed
- Baseburners & Antiques: Fame Rosemont #20, Home Stove Works #25, Glenwood #6, Happy Thought Oak, Merry Bride #214, Sunnyside, Worlds Argand #114, New Golden Sun , & About 30 others.
- Coal Size/Type: Stove, Chesnut, Pea, Rice / Anthracite
Hey Dave,dave brode wrote:Other paints may do ok, but imo, this is the very best option. It is pricey, but it goes a long way.
http://www.por15.com/Rust-Preventive-Coating_c_11.html
I used it on my 14 ga flue. Trying to force my Kaa2 to give me more than it's designed to give, flue gas temps have been as high as 500F. It looks the same today.
Very hard glassy appearance. It will go over a lightly rusted surface, but sand blasting is best. I merely sanded the coated 14ga tubing flue with 80 grit and brushed two coats. Apply 2nd coat when the 1st coat is just tacky enough to drag on your finger. If it fingerprints, it's too soon. One coat is not enough, it goes on very thin. I believe that it hold up VERY well to bucket placement inside the ash box. There are spots of it on my basement floor that dripped during car under chassis painting that have been there 15 yrs.
Excuse the dust, and the scuff marks on the wall trim piece. It had some dirt, never got to re-coating that.
Dave
p.s. - as far as coverage, one of the little six pack cans did two coats on a Model T differential with some to spare. Once you open a can, you need to use it. It'll be bad in less than a week.
I've used it for years and agree its the best paint restoration product I ever worked with.
The only thing I have to add is pay attention to the warning ...... They strongly recommend wearing gloves when applying. If I recall their slogan is something like this ..................... If you get it on your hands it will wear off before it washes off.
Ask me how I know its true .......
Paulie
- dave brode
- Member
- Posts: 478
- Joined: Fri. Jan. 15, 2010 5:47 pm
- Location: Frostburg, Maryland [western]
- Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KAA-2
- Hand Fed Coal Boiler: used to have a 5 section Red Square
- Coal Size/Type: rice anthracite
Paulie,
Been there. Got the t-shirt!
Dave
Been there. Got the t-shirt!
Dave