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I ran into something like this, the state feeding people B.S about what is in the area, several years back when I was still a hunter. I followed a big cat running thru a open field while on my quad. Now I was not real close about 150 yds but even at that distance I can tell when something is big enough to shoot like a deer. This thing was the size of a large dog and could run. I called and ask what big cats were in my area and told maybe a bobcat. I have seen my share of bobcats and while large never that big. To this day I think mt lion but was told not in this state.
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Cougars (mountain lions) pass thru about every state. Had one come thru my area a few years back and injured a horse and another disapeared. The dept of nat resourses took some scat they found and the cat was hit by a car way out east somewhere. It was a DNA match. So it was just roaming, or lost.
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I've seen 10 mountain lions (cougars) here in Pa. 7 in my area and 3 north of williamsport on Rt. 15.
The ones north of Williamsport was a mother and 2 cubs. I was in the tractor trailer, the mother crossed in front of me and tried calling the cubs. They cowered under the guiderail as I passed. I was 30 feet from the mother, and 5 feet from the cubs.
The ones north of Williamsport was a mother and 2 cubs. I was in the tractor trailer, the mother crossed in front of me and tried calling the cubs. They cowered under the guiderail as I passed. I was 30 feet from the mother, and 5 feet from the cubs.
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Pass through to where? They don't go on vaca like people....It is certain they are in Maine, and every other state it would seem.Cougars (mountain lions) pass thru about every state.
Kevin
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Pass thru as in roaming, hunting, looking for a mate, lost, looking for new territory, going from point A to B, etc. Sorry that "pass thru" must mean something else to you than it does me.KLook wrote:Pass through to where? They don't go on vaca like people....It is certain they are in Maine, and every other state it would seem.Cougars (mountain lions) pass thru about every state.
Kevin
Damn SW, you are lucky to have seen that many!
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I have had issues here too with flying rats but in my case it was with crows...
I just had stepped out of the barn and saw some crows WITH some sheep, and that almost never happens. Investigating, I found a ewe had dropped a lamb and the crow...thinking it was dead, started to peck out its guts. It was alive when I picked it up, but knew there was no hope for it and watched it die a few minutes later.
I was so mad I called up the State Wildlife Biologist who said in his 34 years had never heard of that before. He gave me a permit to kill crows no though so at least I can protect my livestock.
I have a ton of coyotes here, but have yet to have an issue with them taking them. Good fences may mean good neighbors, but it also keeps out coyotes. They have to be good, and a lot of details must be paid attention too, but they will keep them out. Also; good fences are not cheap.
I just had stepped out of the barn and saw some crows WITH some sheep, and that almost never happens. Investigating, I found a ewe had dropped a lamb and the crow...thinking it was dead, started to peck out its guts. It was alive when I picked it up, but knew there was no hope for it and watched it die a few minutes later.
I was so mad I called up the State Wildlife Biologist who said in his 34 years had never heard of that before. He gave me a permit to kill crows no though so at least I can protect my livestock.
I have a ton of coyotes here, but have yet to have an issue with them taking them. Good fences may mean good neighbors, but it also keeps out coyotes. They have to be good, and a lot of details must be paid attention too, but they will keep them out. Also; good fences are not cheap.
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Good fences? I have watched coyotes walk up to and jump over a newly built high tensile fence that is 5 feet tall.
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The Natives don't refer to them as the TRICKSTER for nothing ya know
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The TRICKSTER comes in many forms!freetown fred wrote:The Natives don't refer to them as the TRICKSTER for nothing ya know
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I think that's why Rose O'Donnell was bred for, but got loose. And to scare away Frankensteins.
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If you want to fence out coyotes and wolves, you need to two fences. The outer fence needs to be shorter than the inner fence. A 6' inner fence with a 5' outer fence should do the trick. THe fences need to be about 4' apart with. I helped a buddy install fences around his one pasture to hold his wifes goats in. The inner fence was RedBrand Deer and Orchard fence.
http://www.redbrand.com/Products/DeerWildlifeFenc ... chard.aspx
We installed two strands of electric on the outside fence and the inside of the 6' fence. The fence is bonded to ground stakes every 100' or less. The goats do not bother the fence but the neighbors dogs learned real quick that the fencer would knock them on their asses if they got close to it. The electric fence on the inside was installed to prevent critters from climbing the fence into the pasture if they make it into the space between the fence.
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http://www.redbrand.com/Products/DeerWildlifeFenc ... chard.aspx
We installed two strands of electric on the outside fence and the inside of the 6' fence. The fence is bonded to ground stakes every 100' or less. The goats do not bother the fence but the neighbors dogs learned real quick that the fencer would knock them on their asses if they got close to it. The electric fence on the inside was installed to prevent critters from climbing the fence into the pasture if they make it into the space between the fence.
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Quite a few of the sheep and horse farms around here also have Burros in the pastures with the live stock. I'm told that the Burros get along fine with sheep, cows, and horses, but will get very aggressive with any intruder animals.
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My horses have been known to kick the snot out of coyotes. Some of the dairy farms keep a horse or two in the herd. I'll say again---kill a couple of the lil bastards & leave them laying near the fence perimeter. It works! WHAT you say????? not PC??
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I agree FF. I once saw a coyote race up behind Scamp, our retired, very arthritic 26 year old horse. It looked like he was going to try to bite his back legs. Early morning fun I guess. Scamp just kicked him, not a huge kick just like he was fending off a fly, he did not even raise his head to stop grazing. The coyote died instantly and it looked like a broken neck. If I did not witness it I would not believe it. However, the noise they make some nights is just incredible. I do not consider them predators to horses but I just wish they would go away. Cougars or Rose O'Donnell, now that would be scary.
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Llamas to protect goats, a farmer friend tells me....Sunny Boy wrote:Quite a few of the sheep and horse farms around here also have Burros in the pastures with the live stock.
Get a grouchy one and he'll protect them from the farmer, too.