Winkler Stoker?

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Post by glenn harris » Tue. Mar. 24, 2009 6:44 pm

Any idea about this thing? The tag calls it a winkler stoker from Indiana.

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Post by whistlenut » Tue. Mar. 24, 2009 8:16 pm

Glenn, there is a family member that was on the forum a couple of months ago. His grandfather was the designer/manufacturer or some such thing. Lots of them made, not many left. Do a search for winkler and you will be pleasantly surprised. :idea:

 
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Post by LsFarm » Wed. Mar. 25, 2009 1:34 am

That is the remains of a bituminous stoker.. they were meant to be installed in hand feed stoves. You would remove the grates and ashpan. You inserted the stoker through the ashpan door and under where the grates were.. a high temp cement was poured around the firepot sealing the combustion chamber..

There was quite an industry for these add-on stokers in the 30's and 40's,, oil was becoming so popular that coal was feeling the pinch.. I have several trade newspapers labeld 'The Stoker News' all about this type of stoker unit.

Several makers I can remember off hand:
Iron Fireman
Winkler'
Will-Burt [bought Iron Fireman]
Delco
Massey-Fergusun
In total I counted 12 or more different makers.. I don't have time to dig out the trade papers right now.

Moving this to the Bituminous forum for better exposure

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Post by Sting » Wed. Mar. 25, 2009 12:55 pm

interesting to see how the unit was left in place and the floor was painted around it! :?


 
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Post by Winkler Grandson 2 » Thu. May. 08, 2014 4:30 pm

That is only part of the stoker. It was made in Lebanon IN ... 4 Winkler brothers Herman, Maurice, Carl, and Walter ...

 
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Post by whistlenut » Wed. Jun. 18, 2014 10:43 am

I have a couple of questions and have sent you a PM.t hanks

 
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Post by Pacowy » Wed. Jun. 18, 2014 11:31 am

I have a few questions, too, because the unit in Glenn's pic looks a lot like a Motor Stokor using the box in the background (which resembles a Winkler cabinet) as a hopper. If there is more of a relationship between Motor Stokor and Winkler, all of the Motor Stokor stuff in my garage would like to know about it. :lol:

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Post by coalnewbie » Wed. Jun. 18, 2014 12:35 pm

wow, now that is cool



I have absolutely no use for it but I would love to put in the fireplace and watch it run instead of the TV..


 
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Post by Pacowy » Wed. Jun. 18, 2014 12:49 pm

You'd be amazed at the stuff people with big BTU loads can do with that type of thing...but it would do more for you in a boiler or furnace than in the fireplace. :D

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Post by McGiever » Wed. Jun. 18, 2014 8:49 pm

Anybody able to identify this one?
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Anybody able to identify this one?

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Post by coalnewbie » Wed. Jun. 18, 2014 9:05 pm

Iron Fireman?



Europachris knows all about these.

 
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Post by alpineboard » Sat. Jul. 25, 2015 9:02 pm

LsFarm wrote:That is the remains of a bituminous stoker.. they were meant to be installed in hand feed stoves. You would remove the grates and ashpan. You inserted the stoker through the ashpan door and under where the grates were.. a high temp cement was poured around the firepot sealing the combustion chamber..

There was quite an industry for these add-on stokers in the 30's and 40's,, oil was becoming so popular that coal was feeling the pinch.. I have several trade newspapers labeld 'The Stoker News' all about this type of stoker unit.

Several makers I can remember off hand:
Iron Fireman
Winkler'
Will-Burt [bought Iron Fireman]
Delco
Massey-Fergusun
In total I counted 12 or more different makers.. I don't have time to dig out the trade papers right now.

Moving this to the Bituminous forum for better exposure

Greg L
My question would be, If the units burn pot assembly/auger/air tube, is inserted thru the ash door (in one manner or another) , then how does the ash get removed? , if the unit does not have an auto ash auger remover?
I am looking at a Winkler Red with the lock down feed door handle, and the rectangular box type auger/air housing, I have a tarm 202 with 2 doors, top door is a feed door, bottom single door is a split application, bottom half is the removable ash pan, top half is another open/close grate type door for further ash removal, I am thinking if I cut the bottom of door, and leave the bottom hinge attached via portion left for function, and then I can do this open/close door for the cleaning, but I think I can only skim the ash off the top level of the burn pot, because I can not get into the areas with a clean out shovel.
Unless I mount the burn pot insert on the upper level of the bottom door, and do the vice versa cut with the lower door. But in this manner I need to elevate the whole winkler system, on some solid blocks, I suppose this would work, and use the ashpan as designed. Am I missing something here, because I am thinking the winkler was designed to operate at floor level, without being elevated. Thanks, R

this is a bituminous coal stoker, these were meant to be installed in old hand fired boilers and furnaces, to take the place of the hand-feed grates and relieve the homeowners of haveing to tend the fire every 8-12 hours.. The shaker grates were removed, the airbox/auger assembly was slid into the boiler through the ash pan door. The firepot ended up at about the same level as the original grates were.. Then usually a ceramic cement, sort of like concrete was poured around the firepot to make a flat surface for the bituminous-coal Clinkers to form on and be removed [by hand] from the firebox..

The homeowner had to use 'Clinker Tongs' to reach in through the previous coal loading door and remove the hard chunks of Clinker from around the fire,, this was the 'ash' from a properly setup bituminous underfeed stoker.. There was no ashpan.
Sorry for the duplicate, I found the previous information. This Winker may have a use in the correct application. R

 
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Post by carlherrnstein » Sun. Jul. 26, 2015 4:34 pm

Grandpa had a winkler stoker put under his American Radiator Company #7 boiler back in the 40s. It was a conversion unit and went in the ash door. The whole ash pit was filled with perlite and then fire cement was poured ontop of it. The top of burn pot/tyeur assembly stuck above the firebrick hearth about a inch or so.

These stokers burn bituminous coal and when bit is burned in a stoker like these it forms a clinker that is taken out of the load door.

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